Infidelity can be one of the most painful experiences you can have next to losing a child. The pain that is created by the betrayal is nearly unbearable, and much healing is needed afterward, whether you stay in the relationship or not.
In this article, I talk about one sign you need to pay attention to most when you suspect cheating in your relationship. Then, after an affair is discovered, the emotional wounding that takes place will need mending and healing.
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Infidelity is one of the most challenging and damaging emotional events in life. And the more you trust and feel safe with someone, the more powerful and painful it feels when it happens. It can be debilitating and feel like what I would call emotional murder. I hate to use that term, but it really can feel like one of the worst emotional pains you can experience.
Getting betrayed is like someone grabbing your heart so tightly it can’t beat anymore. You can feel it in both your mind and body. It can even hurt worse than physical pain because it is that intense.
Infidelity is so prevalent in our society that we have to talk about it. We have to figure out why it hurts so bad and why it’s so hard to forgive someone after they’ve betrayed us. And especially if it’s best to grow through the healing together or apart.
Everyone has their tipping point. Some people want to forgive the cheater and move forward with the relationship, and others want nothing to do with their partner ever again – and get as far away as possible.
This is a highly sensitive subject, and I’ll do my best to address it with respect. What I want to touch on in this article are two aspects:
- An important but sometimes overlooked warning sign
- How to heal and move on after the cheating is found out
Whether you decide to stick it out with your partner and heal as a couple or move apart and heal separately, healing has to take place. It doesn’t matter if you are the unbeknownst victim of a cheating partner or the cheating person yourself; you likely have to heal something inside you after an event like this.
Yes, even cheaters need to heal unless they don’t feel bad about cheating. There are a few reasons that could be. One of them is if they are a victim of abuse of any kind. The cheating partner may find solace in seeking comfort or connection with another person when they’ve been a victim of verbal, emotional, or physical abuse. Victims of abuse often feel stuck with no way out of the relationship, so they may look outside the relationship for connection.
I won’t be going over this specific form of cheating in this article, but I wanted to share these with you in case you fell into that category.
Many cheaters, however, do feel bad and have to live with regret their entire lives. This is not a quality way of life. Don’t misunderstand; I’m not here to excuse that behavior. I just want to address the consequences, the pain, and the healing surrounding the behavior.
If you’re thinking of being unfaithful in your relationship, then maybe after reading this article, you’ll change your mind. In most “normal” relationships, cheating is betrayal. And betrayal feels like emotional murder. Once you step out of the relationship and into that realm, the damage is done.
My First Exposure to Infidelity
In the late ’80s, I loved playing with scanners. Not the type of scanners that tell you the price of items at a grocery store, but the type that could tune into police and emergency bands over the airwaves.
Back then, scanners picked up almost every type of audio signal because the technology was less secure. In other words, you could hear almost anyone who was talking on almost any wireless device. With the right scanner, you could not only CB radios but also cordless phones, baby monitors, drive-up windows at fast-food restaurants, and even the latest technology of the time: cellular phones.
I didn’t know that what I was doing was intrusive in any way because I figured everyone knew that cordless devices could be heard over scanners. It was so easy to tune in, like finding a station on the radio.
When cell phones were first introduced, and for many years afterward, they could be easily intercepted by using a simple, legal Radio Shack scanner. All you had to do was press auto-scan in the right frequency range, and in no time at all, you’d be listening to conversations between people who didn’t know you were there. I believe today (and back then), this is considered an illegal act, so I’m a bit embarrassed to admit that I used to do this.
It was so easy to tune in to these conversations. It was like walking by an open door and hearing two people talking but instead of walking by, choosing to stop and listen instead.
When I think back to all the conversations I overheard, I really don’t remember most of them (many of us tend to talk about a lot of mundane things). However, there was one conversation that stuck with me.
On one end of the line, I heard a man laughing and being friendly to a woman on the other end. They were talking as if they knew each other well and being cute by calling each other romantic pet names. They would use terms of endearment like “honey” and “baby.”
Then I heard the man say, “I’m in the driveway outside my house right now.” The woman on the other end says, “Oh yeah? Is your wife home? Can you see her inside?”
He says, “Yeah, I see her…” He lets out a little laugh. He continued, “It looks like she’s cleaning the house or something.”
Then, they both laughed and carried on with their conversation as if nothing else mattered. My heart skipped a beat the moment I realized that he was talking to his girlfriend while watching his wife through the window of their home. I was witnessing what appeared to be an affair in real time.
I don’t remember too much more of the conversation after that because I was sort of in shock. I started having all kinds of thoughts like, ‘He’s cheating? He’s talking to his girlfriend while watching his wife in the house? That’s terrible!’
I suddenly felt awful for the wife, thinking he was betraying her and taking advantage of her trust, as she was likely oblivious to what was going on. I couldn’t believe I was listening to the words of an unfaithful husband sitting in his car talking to his mistress while watching the one he promised to love, and honor for the rest of his life take care of their house.
I thought about how his wife must go through her day – oblivious to his cheating, feeling very happily married to the man she loves, trusts, and respects. She probably doesn’t think twice about his whereabouts when he walks in the door and acts like everything is fine between them.
Of course, I could only imagine what their life must be like. Besides the call I overheard, the rest of the story was just a guess on my part. I imagined the wife not knowing about her husband’s behavior and being happy that she was with someone she could respect and trust.
I felt the betrayal as if I were experiencing it firsthand. And the first thought that came to my mind was: “What a bastard!”
For the first time in my life, I experienced what it must feel like to be cheated on. And it wasn’t even happening to me! But it made an impact.
Trying It On
When we “try on” what it might be like to be in someone else’s shoes, we empathize. We live vicariously through that person and experience the world, not only seeing everything through their eyes but also seeing things from our own perspective as well.
This might sound strange, but I imagined being that wife, not knowing what my husband was doing. I pictured myself walking around cleaning the house, not worrying about my relationship because I fully trusted the person I married.
In that space, life felt “normal,” and everything was good.
Then, when I thought about what it would feel like if I found out he was cheating on me, I would be so devastated, and the pain and confusion would debilitate me. I’d be crushed in so many ways and wouldn’t know what to do, who to trust, or where to turn. The person I depended on more than anyone in the world would suddenly be the most distrustful, unsafe person I know.
The secrets we shared together and all the special moments we once held close were crushed in an instant. My entire marriage would feel like a scam, as every happy moment I remember with my husband would suddenly transform into miserable, painful memories that lost all the meaning they once had.
It’s a grim, pathetic picture I painted for sure. But all of this went through my head in just a few seconds. Lots of pain and a whole lot more loss of what was and what wasn’t anymore.
When I snapped out of it and back to my own life, I thought back to how that man was talking to the other woman on the other end of the phone.
He sounded… happy. He sounded nonchalant, as if this act of betrayal was inconsequential.
He voiced no compassion or care for the woman who committed to love and support him. He was getting all of his romantic, emotional, and likely physical needs met by someone else. He was dishonoring his wife, and she probably had no clue.
Again, this was all in my imagination. I was assuming I knew exactly what was going on in his wife’s head. Sure, it was clear that the man and the other woman on the phone were seeing each other outside his marriage, but I have no clue about the situation with his wife.
Maybe they slept in separate beds like my mom and stepdad did for many years. Maybe she was even okay with his infidelity and knew that he was seeing someone else outside the marriage. There may be a whole slew of possible explanations.
But that scene stuck with me. It burned into my brain and caused me to make a decision that I’ve held on to ever since. At that moment, I made a promise to myself that I’d never put someone through that. I committed to myself that no matter how bad my relationship got, I would stay faithful. And if I truly wanted to put my emotional or sexual energy toward someone else, I’d at least leave the relationship I was in before pursuing another.
Perhaps my proclivity for eavesdropping during that period of my life had a positive impact on me. Before I heard that conversation, I never really thought about infidelity at all. I didn’t intend to cheat in any of my relationships anyway, but I never thought about how bad she would feel if I did.
I simply didn’t have the knowledge, the foresight, or even access to the appropriate empathetic perspective to see how destructive cheating could be. What I overheard that day made a powerful impression on me. I learned early on just how badly someone could be hurt by infidelity.
I know there are a lot of people who have been or are currently a victim of cheating. I also know there are a lot of people who have been or are currently perpetrators as well.
There are many facets of temptation, pain, trust, and betrayal mixed in with infidelity, but in this article, my focus will be centered mainly on the aftermath of the affair and surviving it regardless of which side you’re on. Getting through this in some way, shape, or form is a priority.
If you suspect your partner of cheating, you can certainly go online and look up all the warning signs of cheating, and you’ll discover plenty of lists to help you determine if what you suspect is true.
But there is one thing those lists don’t cover well, and that’s your instincts. Your instincts provide the strongest clue to consider whether your partner is cheating or not. We’ll dive into that in-depth momentarily.
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The Challenge of Trust
Infidelity is a violation of the rules of a relationship. When we start a romantic partnership with someone, there is usually a set of boundaries that the relationship either assumes or is clearly communicated about as things get more serious.
These rules create a level of comfort and security for those involved so that they don’t have to continuously obsess about if their partner is going to do something that will cause them upset. In other words, if one of the relationship rules you establish is that neither of you makes a large purchase without consulting the other first, then that is one thing you can cross off your list of worries. You’ve already addressed it, so you can forget about it.
Remember that commercial in the 80s with the Ronco Rotisserie? You put the chicken in the rotisserie, turn the temperature dial, then walk away.
The announcer would say, “Just set it and forget it!”
This is what relationship rules are supposed to be like. Once they are set, you shouldn’t have to revisit them. There should be no need to talk about “the rules” or bring them up ever again because the understanding is that the rules will never be violated.
If you had to continuously remind each other of the rules, then they aren’t rules at all; they are only reminders like sticky notes. Reminders can fall off the fridge and get swept into the garbage.
But rules are rules!
You either set them and abide by them, or you talk to each other or a therapist about what needs to change. If either partner wants to violate the rules without discussion, should they do so while still in the relationship? There are usually no unspoken caveats.
Though some people can be lenient with some rules, giving in a little here or there. Sometimes, however, the more slack you give, the more that’s taken. That’s not always the case (and it doesn’t always mean someone’s going to cheat), but it is something to be aware of so that you don’t let things get out of hand.
Trust forms when you feel comfortable that you never have to revisit or emphasize the rules.
It means you trust each other. When you can set the rules, then forget them in the sense that you don’t have to worry about enforcing them, that is giving in to trust.
Trust, at least in a romantic relationship, involves allowing someone to walk around carrying your heart. I know it’s not like this for everyone, but it’s the way I look at trust. I can picture my partner at a restaurant with another man and completely trust her because she has my heart with her. It’s something I believe she cherishes and holds on to.
Even if the man makes a pass at her, I know she’ll feel me there with her and say, “Uh, sorry, I’m with Paul.” It is that full trust that I put into her and the relationship. It is a knowing that my heart will be safe.
This is one perspective, of course. Not everyone has this type of metaphor for trust in a romantic relationship, but I think it describes what many of us want. I would want to know that if some guy made an inappropriate gesture toward my partner she would make it clear that she is not available.
Regardless of how trust looks for you, it’s how we can feel good in life without worrying all the time. When you spend the majority of your time worrying about how your partner is going to respond to you or if your partner is going to cheat on you or hurt you, then you don’t trust them.
If you spend more time feeling unsafe and insecure than you do happy, loving, and trusting of your partner, then it may be your cue to get out of the relationship.
Of course, we all have good excuses for why we can’t leave a situation. But feeling unsafe and insecure the majority of the time is not how a healthy relationship is supposed to work.
When you have full trust, you don’t worry. When you don’t spend your time hoping your partner doesn’t hurt you, you don’t worry. When you feel unsafe, insecure, or even scared, more often than not, it may be time to seriously consider leaving the relationship.
I know someone who wasn’t even liked by her husband, but she stuck with him in the marriage for years. He ended up doing a lot of really bad things in the relationship, hurting her heart over and over again. She used the words “crushing” and “devastating,” explaining her experience in the marriage.
I don’t want this for you. If it’s gotten to the point where you can’t trust the other person to keep your heart safe, then it’s time to get help or move on.
At least talk to your partner and see where it leads. At most, go to counseling or leave. But don’t just sit there and take it. That lingering bad feeling only gets worse over time. Lingering negative emotions need closure; otherwise, they eat away at you both physically and mentally.
Lingering negative emotions affect the body. In fact, I did an episode on that very subject. And since that episode aired, I’ve had a few emails from listeners that corroborated what I talked about.
One woman who wrote to me who had to deal with her husband’s infidelity said that the emotional turmoil she went through afterward caused infections, rashes, and panic attacks, along with a few other things.
It’s vital that you remember that lingering negative emotions affect the body. This is why it’s so important to resolve what’s causing them or do something to help you move past them and get back to living healthy again.
Before finding out about an affair, you’ll have bad feelings that affect your mind and body. These are suspicions. After the affair, those bad feelings amplify and continue to linger until you find a way to feel safe and trust again.
Trust is the hardest thing to do after an affair. When all the bad thoughts and feelings are stripped away, we’re left with a choice to trust or not. Trusting happens when your instincts tell you the behavior you see in your partner is congruent with good intentions. However, it’s difficult to trust your partner when you know something is off and can’t quite put your finger on it.
In the next section, I’ll talk about the first step in developing trust. If you suspect your partner of cheating, the first step you need to do is trust the person who has those suspicions: You.
Trust you first.
When you are starting to suspect something, don’t dismiss the feeling you get. Don’t rationalize it away. Don’t do any of those self-defeating behaviors we humans tend to do when we don’t want to believe something isn’t true.
Just explore and investigate what you suspect first. If you instead use your brain to override your instincts, you will be giving up a very powerful, built-in radar system.
Almost always, your intuition knows more than you can think (literally). The problem happens when your intuition is telling you something, but you don’t want to believe it.
Denying is Like Lying to Yourself
As I mentioned before, there are quite a few warning signs of infidelity, and they can be found all over the web.
Any of these individual signs could mean nothing, but many of them, when they’re added up, along with what you know and how you feel, can indicate a potential cheater.
I want to explore one warning sign that isn’t often addressed in many of the articles and books you read. This one warning sign is probably one of the most powerful indicators of a cheating person: Your denial.
It’s not them coming home later than normal, acting nicer to you, or hiding their phone messages from you.
Your denial is one of the strongest indicators of a cheating partner.
Denial is what we do when we just can’t believe something could be true, so we rationalize it away, thinking that it isn’t possible. Denial is that place where your instincts kick in to reveal to you probabilities, but your defense mechanisms activate to protect you from what could be true and devastating. This is actually a self-imposed dysfunction.
When we protect ourselves from the possible reality of intense emotional pain, it is a dysfunction. Our body is designed to feel and release pain, but our defense mechanisms are the thoughts we use to help suppress the pain. We suppress our feelings because we don’t want to feel pain.
In a manner of speaking, our body is doing what comes naturally by presenting us with data that makes us feel suspicious. But then our brain kicks in and convinces us that what we believe might be happening simply can’t be true.
Believing that someone is capable of betraying us is hard to handle on its own. But believing the other person actually did betray us might be impossible to bear. It’s such an immensely negative place to be. No wonder it’s so easy to go into denial. The pain of suspicion is usually a lot less stressful and more tolerable than the pain of knowing what could be true.
This is what keeps some affairs going on for months or years. Some people just don’t want to investigate further for fear that it could be true. When you refuse to believe something could be true, you are in denial.
Denial is like pretending someone isn’t kicking you in the stomach while you’re on the ground actually getting kicked in the stomach. You can’t really rationalize that away.
Our instincts work well. They are designed to protect us. So when they activate, it’s an indication that something needs addressing.
Denial keeps us from addressing our suspicions.
This can often be the sole reason someone’s bad behavior goes on for far too long.
I learned to understand denial firsthand as a child by watching my mom. She never wanted to believe that anyone in her family could do anything wrong because that would mean she’d have to face the pain of dealing with a hard truth. She would rather block her ears than hear a hard truth.
A “hard truth” is one that is very uncomfortable to share with someone else, yet we share it anyway because it’s the truth. It’s like when a teenager takes their mom’s luxury car for a joyride and puts a dent in it. Having to tell his parents might fall into the category of hard truth. It needs to be told, but he doesn’t really want to tell.
Another example of a hard truth might be to tell your significant other how much their new perfume bothers you or how embarrassed you are by their behavior when you go out. These can hurt our partners, so we might avoid telling them.
We can choose to accept these truths as our problems and just learn to accept things the way they are, or we can stuff our thoughts and feelings down and not share them with anyone. Or we can choose to share what’s on our mind with our partner and hope to have a healing conversation with them.
When your partner chooses not to share something that affects their emotions toward you, you pick up on it in some way. And when you get that feeling, you can either choose to go into denial or you can talk about it.
Talking about it can either bring closure or more questions. But at least you get it out on the table. For example, let’s say you suspect your partner’s late nights at work are more than just work. If something doesn’t feel right about their reasons for working late, what would you say to them? Would you choose not to say anything, or would you ask the questions you don’t want answers to?
This is one of the main reasons I emphasize building honesty in the relationship as soon as possible because when a situation arises and you have a suspicion of anything, your honest thoughts will be much better received because that will already be how you communicate.
But if your questioning comes out of nowhere, it will seem a bit strange to your partner, not that asking questions is a bad idea. No matter what, having a conversation with them is a great idea because it keeps you emotionally healthy. When you bring up the hard subjects and don’t repress them, hoping they go away, you are giving yourself a chance for closure.
When you can’t get rid of lingering thoughts (especially suspicious ones), closure is the key to moving on and enjoying your life again. Denial, on the other hand, keeps the door open.
Closure ends the lingering.
When you are unable to give yourself closure, you leave your mind and body open to damage. It reminds me of a video game I played in the ’80s called Warlords. In that game, there is a castle on each corner of the screen. In front of each castle is your player. Your player is really just a block, but you can move it left and right to defend your castle from fireballs that are being shot at your castle by a flying dragon or other players.
When the fireball comes your way, you move your player in its path to protect your castle from getting hit. At this point, you can either catch and hold on to the fireball or bounce it back toward the other players.
Holding on to the fireball gives you the advantage of aiming it at other players’ castles. However, the drawback of doing that is by holding onto it, the fireball drops small globs of fire onto your castle disintegrating it bit by bit.
The longer you hold on to it, the more you destroy your own castle.
That’s how I see negative emotions: The longer you hold onto them, the more they disintegrate your mind and body. Emotions are like globs of fire dripping onto your soul and burning you from the inside out.
The way to release those negative emotions (remember suspicions are also negative emotions), is to ask for the hard truths from your partner. Ask for information you know you don’t want to hear so that you can get closure. It may not be the closure you want, but knowing is healthier than not knowing. Assuming they are honest.
In the case of infidelity, the truthful answer will probably hurt terribly. But you can either endure the pain of what you know or the pain of what you don’t know, so get out of denial as soon as possible and face the truth. Truth isn’t always pleasant, but it’s the first step toward progress.
Learning About the Affair
Denial is often one of the many signs of infidelity, but it is not often addressed when you see those “Signs your partner is cheating” lists online.
There’s a big reason I am focusing on denial:
It’s time to trust yourself and your instincts.
It doesn’t mean what you suspect happening actually is happening, but it does mean that the summation of all your senses has given you a theory that is cause for suspicion.
In other words, when you suspect something, and you’re not sure exactly what you suspect (but you know something’s up), it’s usually your subconscious mind sensing things that you can’t consciously detect.
It might be the other person’s body language, the inflection in their voice, the way they smell, subtle changes in their behavior, how they look, or even how they feel. Any or all of these components can be just a tad different than normal. While you are consciously carrying on a conversation with them or even paying no attention to them at all, your subconscious mind is very busy picking up the rest of the story.
Our instincts work almost like a cognitive dissonance: We’re not sure why we feel the way we feel. We just know something is off.
That’s how suspicion works, too. We get a feeling that something isn’t right, so we combine all the data we’ve learned and form theories. At this point, we don’t have enough pieces to form a bigger picture, but we do know something is different.
Infidelity is a complex issue. There are many emotions involved and multiple challenges that stem from those emotions. Because of that, there’s a point where healing from the affair must take place because it is the most important step for both partners. Yes, even the cheater.
I know several people who’ve either been the victim of betrayal in their relationship or the perpetrator. And in every case with these particular people, there was pain on both sides and regret on the side of the cheater. Almost every victim of infidelity agrees with me when I say:
Having an affair is like committing emotional murder.
It may sound dramatic, but the pain I’ve seen people in because of their partner cheating on them is monumental. The words “crushed” and “devastated” don’t even begin to describe some of the feelings victims of cheating can have. But words like that are often used when they recall the betrayal.
I don’t use the term “emotional murder” to pummel the cheaters. There are those who’ve committed adultery that are truly sorry and regretful. But it’s important for the one who cheated to understand what their partner might be going through.
The instant an affair is discovered, it’s like being stabbed in the heart. If you’ve never experienced this kind of pain, just imagine every possible negative emotion you could have happening at the exact same time:
Anger, sadness, humiliation, embarrassment, and a whole lot more.
The one person you trusted your heart with just threw it out the window on the way to their lover. Then, on their way home, they picked it up off the street, wiped it off, stuck it in the trunk, and kept driving.
I realize that is a colorful way to explain the pain, but it can feel quite literal to a victim of cheating. The feelings of huge loss and immediate distrust of the world can wash over you when you find out about an affair. And you won’t know what to do next. It really can be devastating.
I don’t know if I’ve ever been cheated on, but I do know what it’s like when the one person you trust with all your heart suddenly gives you a proverbial kick in the face for no reason.
In one particular episode of my show, I once told the story of when I was being abused by my stepfather at four years old. He had taken my soiled underwear and rubbed it onto my face to show me that four-year-olds shouldn’t mess their pants.
The one person I thought was there for me to protect and love me was the very person who turned on me. And when I wanted to cry and needed a hug, I couldn’t reach out to that person because he was the one abusing me. I had no one to turn to.
It was awful at the time. Later on in life, I was able to process that event and release it. However, at four, I was hardly old enough to know what was considered healthy and what was considered dysfunctional. When children don’t know any other way of being treated, pain can almost be considered a normal part of childhood.
As awful as some moments of my childhood were, I had defensive mechanisms that blocked some of those memories, helping me to survive. Of course, we always have to deal with those repressed memories and accompanying emotions when we get older, but that’s one of the reasons I created my show and write articles like this.
When we’re adults and have to deal with something like betrayal, it strikes us on an entirely different level. Our minds are mature, and we aren’t as carefree as children.
We hold grudges and repress anger and sadness.
We know how to define our pain, so we explore it and feel it inside and out.
We attach stories to our pain that we can’t let go of.
We find blame and feel guilty.
We become a wreck as it affects our love life, our career, our family life, and everything else.
Dealing with pain as an adult causes a whirlwind of events to occur, and it can feel like our world is collapsing around us.
Children can often move on to the next thing, even though they are being abused. It’s almost like the loyalty of a dog. They just keep coming back. Children come back, even after severe abuse.
And that’s something that sometimes happens with adults. You can get cheated on and go through a myriad of awful feelings. Then sometimes you go back. You might go back because you realize that even though that person hurt you, you think they may still love you and can still fulfill so many of your needs.
The difference between going back to a parent who abused you and a romantic partner who cheated on you is that there’s more of a likelihood the partner is willing to work things out and never cheat again.
Whereas an abusive parent doesn’t often see the light and stop abusing, at least according to many people I know who’ve gotten abused.
This is an important point for both the person who’s been cheated on and the cheater themselves:
A cheater doesn’t always have to be a cheater.
A cheater can recognize a mistake and choose never to make that same mistake again. They might have fallen into temptation once but regretted it immediately.
Because of that regret, the door to forgiveness and rebuilding might have a chance of being opened. The chances of an abusive parent stopping their abuse, on the other hand, are usually far less likely.
If you’ve been cheated on, did you stay with your partner? If so, why?
And if you stayed, was it because you wanted to trust them again? Or did you believe they were remorseful, so you decided to trust that they would never want to do that to you again?
And if that’s the case, how is your relationship now? Is it stronger than before?
The reason I ask is that if your relationship isn’t stronger than ever after you repair the damage of the affair, you may be heading for disaster once again. That’s not a pleasant thought, but as you know, hard truths aren’t usually pleasant.
In the next section, I’d like to share a story of someone who got cheated on. She was a very sweet woman who simply couldn’t get past some of the emotional triggers of the affair.
Does the Pain End?
When I had my hypnosis practice back in 2009, I had a client whose husband cheated on her with multiple women during a time when she was sick.
He said he was not getting his emotional or physical needs met, so he decided to seek them elsewhere. When she found out about it, besides the shock and confusion, she felt worthless and alone. She was crushed. He threw her heart out the window.
However, she loved so much about this man that she decided to forgive him and take him back into the relationship. The only problem was that every time she saw a woman that she believed her husband might have an attraction to, she became upset.
No matter what he said, she could not release the negative emotions. She relived those affairs over and over again. She couldn’t get them out of her head. Some of the hypnosis worked, and some didn’t. I was able to help her feel better, but her pain was too strong, and she had many unresolved thoughts and feelings.
After some more time with her, I realized she wasn’t allowing herself to experience the full range of negative thoughts and emotions. When a painful image appeared in her head, she’d try to stuff it away so she wouldn’t have to feel it.
This is emotional denial. She was denying herself from feeling bad by trying to stuff the bad feelings away. Even though she really believed he would never cheat again, and he swore up and down on his life that he never would, she would still get these debilitating thoughts. And because of this, he could never live down the fact that he cheated.
When a person cheats but is forgiven and taken back but gets reminded of the cheating over and over again because the victim of cheating keeps getting triggered, a breakup and maybe even more cheating are inevitable.
My client would have these bad thoughts pop into her head which led to bad feelings. Then she would make him feel bad for cheating on her as if it were happening all over again, very much a PTSD response. If she wanted the relationship to work out, it couldn’t with this type of repetitive behavior. Something needed to change so that they could heal and rebuild.
In her case, one of the steps we took was to push her beyond the pain. This was probably the hardest thing I’ve ever had to do with any client because it’s like setting off a bomb when it happens. But here’s what I did:
I asked her to recall a time that upset her. Not the time he cheated, but another time after she took him back that, when she thought about it, made her feel pain. The reminders of his cheating were all over the place in her life. Every attractive woman she saw on TV, in a movie, or in real life was a trigger for her, so accessing the pain was fairly easy.
One particular memory caused her to start crying. I asked her, “What are you imagining right now?” She told me she imagined him and another woman together. Only a few seconds went by before she stopped and said, “I don’t want to think about this anymore. Can we stop?”
She was nearing her pain threshold. At this point, we can stop or continue to push beyond what she believes she can handle. If we stop here, we’d have to revisit it at another time and slowly work our way through all of the emotions. However, that might take years of her resisting what she needed to feel (and probably cost her lots of money too), so I decided to take a chance and light the fuse to set off the bomb.
I told her, “I want you to imagine the worst-case scenario. I want you to imagine your husband and this woman fully engaged and everything you hate about the image to appear in your head. Create this visual. See your husband with this woman or even other women. Witness it all.”
Don’t try this at home is an understatement. It is a dangerous place to take someone, and I’ll probably never do it again with any other client. But I knew she was on the verge of a breakthrough, so I decided to move forward with the process. I told her to continue visualizing the images that brought her pain.
She reluctantly followed through. She saw more terrible images and then cried even more. She even started shaking. I told her to go even further and amplify the color and size of the images and to feel the pain by letting it all play out in her head right now.
At this point, she yelled, “No, I can’t. I can’t!” And ran out of my office, screaming and crying down the hall. I got up and ran after her. When I caught up to her in another empty office at the end of the hall, I was able to help her break through the pain by telling her it was okay to release everything now and that by allowing all of this pent-up emotional energy to come up in her gave her an opportunity to release it completely.
After she calmed down, she came back to my office. She wiped her eyes and was able to be present with me, not stuck in some bad memory. She was still a bit shaken but was recovering from her breakdown. I tied up some loose ends to help her continue letting go and healing. Then we ended the session.
The next day, she came back, and she was a different person. Her face was bright. She was smiling. And she just looked younger.
I said, “Wow, you look so different!”
She said, “I feel different. I feel so much better.”
I found out that much of her pain was gone now. She wasn’t reliving those old painful moments anymore. She felt free.
For this return session, I just reinforced those good feelings and gave her some helpful subconscious suggestions to help her feel good again, especially if she ever felt another episode come on.
The point of this story is to share with you how the relationship she wanted to rebuild she was also sabotaging at the same time. She loved him and was willing to move forward with him, but she kept experiencing painful images, causing her to relive the pain.
He regretted cheating and told me he wanted a real relationship with his wife again but didn’t know how to respond to her every time she brought up his cheating. It’s not that he didn’t deserve those reminders. The cheater will have to face the music for a while and go through many months of rebuilding before things start to get better. But how much is too much? At what point does the victim stop bringing up the past and start focusing on moving forward to rebuild the relationship?
In another episode of my show, I talked about amplifying negative, lingering emotions so that you can get past the point where resistance kicks in. In other words, when you have terribly painful emotions, they stick around because you choose to remember or feel the pain only up to a certain point. At that point, you might repress them again.
This cycle of feeling bad, reaching your emotional pain threshold, and then repressing the negative emotions keeps those same thoughts and emotions coming back over and over again.
It never ends! At least until you go beyond the pain you’re feeling. It isn’t until you push beyond your own limits and into even more pain that the end of suffering is possible.
The total release of suffering is what sits beyond the precipice of pain.
Once you go beyond the point where you can’t take the pain anymore, you elevate to a whole new level of tolerance for your pain. But more importantly, you break through that pain and into release.
I think many of us don’t want to tolerate pain. We just want to repress it so we don’t feel it. Repressing it helps us forget the past exists. It makes us feel safe. And this can be a useful tool, but it’s not meant to be used forever.
Something I do when a bad image comes into my mind is expand it and make it brighter, more colorful, larger than life, and even more painful. I amplify all the bad feelings until I’ve experienced and explored them completely.
This is not fun. It can be a terribly painful experience. But when I do this process, the next time I have that bad image comes to mind, I am less sensitive to it than before. My goal is to explore every possible avenue of pain with my thoughts so that I will be less likely to get triggered in the future.
This doesn’t always work when I do it by myself. Sometimes, I need someone to coach me through it. And sometimes, I need days or even weeks of digging into myself to be able to release more powerful images.
Sometimes, I’ll have thoughts and emotions that I cannot get rid of no matter what I try, so I’ll do unconventional things like tapping (also known as the Emotional Freedom Technique). I hardly ever use it, but sometimes, I cannot be objective enough about my own “stuff” to be able to heal through it, so I do things that sometimes don’t make sense or that I’m skeptical about. This helps me heal because I’m not thinking logically or rationally (which is not where our emotions reside).
You may want to try EFT yourself in case you have emotional challenges that just won’t go away. And of course, find a therapist if you are really stuck on something.
Sometimes, you are not your own best healer.
I believe anyone can heal themselves, but I also believe that you can be your own biggest resistance to healing as well. I want you to heal from infidelity, whether you stay with your partner or not. This is painful stuff, and it will take time. But healing is possible, and you can get through the tunnel and reach the light.
Before I conclude this article, there’s the other side of the coin I want to address, and that is how the cheating partner can grow and heal through this, too. I want to talk about an aspect of cheating that puts the one who cheated in a different light. A cheater certainly earns their partner’s upset, as they have betrayed their partner’s trust.
But what if the cheater absolutely regrets cheating? What if they had the temptation, violated the values of the relationship, and betrayed their partner, then afterward wanted to save the relationship? What if they wanted to do whatever it took to restore your faith and trust in them and really did become a faithful, honest person?
Does the Truly Remorseful Cheater Get a Second Chance?
The one who cheats and regrets has a long, difficult journey ahead of them, especially if their partner wants to continue and rebuild the relationship. They went through the act, they were either caught or admitted to it, they were accepted back into the relationship, and now they have to regain the trust of their partner.
The cheater feels like less of who they were. They know they just caused their partner awful pain, and they may never be able to live that down. They face the guilt and punishment from that time in their relationship in many ways. Their friends and family may know about it, and they will get looks from others for quite a long time.
Remember, this is if the cheater regrets their behavior and has no intention of ever repeating it. If you know a cheater who repeats this behavior, that’s probably not someone you want to be in a relationship with.
But if the regretful cheater wants to lose the title of “cheater,” they have a bumpy road ahead. What happens is that not only do they feel incredible guilt and sadness, but they also get that reinforced by their partner. They feel awful, and their partner makes them feel worse.
This is probably good for the first few months as it acts as a sort of punishment for the cheater, but eventually, the trust has to be earned, and forgiveness has to sink in, or it will never work. I’ve talked to quite a few men who have cheated on their wives, and there’s a recurring theme I see over and over again: After the affair is over, the story is out, and the wife knows everything, they feel emasculated.
They also feel pathetic and undeserving of love. They feel less than human, like they’ve done the worst thing in the world, and will now choose to live in this disempowered place for the rest of their lives. Their partners decided to take them back in, and they came crawling back with their tails between their legs. Many of those men stayed that way ever since.
This is a true place of submission, compliance, and obedience. These men now do everything their partner wants. They share with their partners all their messages back and forth with other people. They check in and let their partners know everything that’s going on in their lives at all times just to continue to prove that they are now loyal and will be loyal forever.
Think about this for a moment. Let’s say you made the biggest mistake in your life. You regretted it, asked for forgiveness, and received it. From that point on, you act as if you are still the same person who made the mistake. And you might even be with someone who reminds you of it all the time.
Imagine that! You are continuously reminded of a mistake you made a long time ago, never able to live it down, no matter how much you’ve changed. It can turn a person into a pathetic, submissive, sorry shell of who they once were. They’ve lost desire and passion and are only there to serve you and be reminded of how wrong they were.
There is a period of time when a cheater needs to go through some punishment, but after that, there’s an opportunity for the cheater to step into their own power again. The men I know who have cheated believe they will never feel empowered again, so they stay broken and submissive. They don’t feel like men anymore.
If you’re someone who is rebuilding their relationship with someone who cheated on you, and they’re in this place of sorrow and regret, is this the type of person you’ve always dreamt of being with?
Do you want a healthy, loving relationship full of vitality and passion? Or, is it better for you to make sure that person stays, for lack of a better word, pathetic? Is that your dream partner?
I’m willing to bet your ideal mate looks a lot better than that. What needs to happen for them to feel empowered again? What needs to happen for a man to feel like a man or a woman to feel like a woman, or for anyone to feel comfortable in their own skin again after the punishment has run its course?
When is the cheater allowed to step out of that accountability phase and start living life again?
If the cheater has learned their lesson and will never cheat again, then it’s time for them to become mentally healthy and be the person their partner wants and needs.
My friend told me that men who are in this pathetic state need to “grow some balls!” That’s not necessarily untrue, as the implication is that they need to get their power back. But it will be a give and take between two people. Both of you need to support each other’s growth, not endless pain and suffering.
Both of you need to show the other that you are stepping into your power again. What that means is that, if you cheated, you are going to prove your love for the one you love, not live in a pathetic place inside yourself. You want to step into a powerful place of confidence and vigor, showing your partner, “Yeah, I messed up bad, and I wish I hadn’t. But dammit, I am going to be your rock from this point on. I’m there for you when you need me. But this time, I’m also going to be there for me and be a person who is committed to being the best I can for the one I love.”
When a former cheater can step into his or her power and be a mentally healthy person, they become what the other one really needs in order for the relationship to thrive. If one or both of you are in a pathetic or sorrowful state, that’s no way to rebuild the relationship.
If it’s too soon, and the pain still stings too much, maybe you need to go through a grieving period before either of you can step into these roles.
There is a point where the feeling of weakness and guilt has to stop so that the foundation of integrity and strength can be built up stronger than it was before.
This article isn’t about forgiving and moving on. It’s about empowerment. Once an affair happens, and you want to put the pieces back together, it doesn’t mean that one or both of you have to live life in shame forever. You’ll go through that at first, but then you need to hop into your power again.
Good relationships are built on empowerment, determination, strong feelings toward each other, and rock-like support. If you are an “infidelity survivor,” and you want it to work, then prove your worth, not your fear. Show your partner that ‘yeah, you are still hurting, but you want this to work, dammit, so let’s make this happen.’
Sometimes, the hard truth is what you need to move forward. “Yup, I screwed up. But I want to make things better now. Are you with me?”. Or, “Yes, you screwed up, and I might still be angry with you, but let’s face this head-on because I want it to work out. You are still building trust with me, but I need you to stand up and be the rock for me, not cower down, and hope you are forgiven every minute of every day. This is not how I want my relationship to be.”
When you both step into your power, things will start to shift. I know it’s hard! But remember, there’s a point where the blaming, shaming, and guilt-tripping have to stop so that you can start something new. Otherwise, your foundation will be shaky all over again.
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What’s the perfect answer to all this cheating nonsense? What is the best course of action after you cheat on someone or they cheat on you? What do you do with the flood of awful emotions that come up from inside, probably ones you’ve never experienced before?
There is no perfect answer. Introducing an affair into a relationship will alter everything. If you’re thinking of cheating, my advice is not to do it. Giving in to temptation gets you a quick high coupled with long-term emotional pain. And if you’ve been cheated on, and your partner regrets it and wants to keep the relationship, they need to accept that there will be a few months or even much longer of you being hyper-aware and observant of their every move.
And I fully encourage that. The cheater will be and should be scrutinized for months. And their every move should be subject to judgment and interpretation. If you’re a former cheater, and it’s been several months or even longer than a year, and you’ve had no thoughts of cheating again, then step into who you are and who you want to be for your partner.
The victim of cheating may still be harboring lots of pain, but if the former cheater is actually forgiven, then that person needs to step up to the plate and become the loving, confident person that the other one wants as a romantic partner.
A former cheater who regrets their mistake and whom you’ve forgiven needs to be given the space to find themselves again and step into who they want to be. A disempowered life is no life at all. Walking around in shame, guilt, and submission all the time is not what one-half of a relationship should be.
If you are still mortally wounded from being cheated on and still can’t trust your partner, then maybe it’s time to consider that the relationship simply won’t work out. Every situation is different, and everyone needs to heal in their own way and in their own time.
It’s possible the saying, “Once a cheater, always a cheater,” can be an accurate description of you or your partner. And if it’s been too long and the healing hasn’t taken place yet, and you still feel once a cheater, always a cheater, then the relationship may not be meant to be.
But if you do honestly trust the person who once cheated and know that they won’t cheat again, but you still have feelings of resentment or anger, then it’s time for you to step into your power and be the person you’d want to be as if you weren’t the victim of cheating, but instead a part of something that could be amazing.
How do you want to feel in a relationship? Who do you want to be for your partner? At one point, the shaming, guilting, and pain have to stop so that you can actually rebuild the relationship with a solid foundation of love, not a shaky foundation of pain and anger.
There are many opinions about infidelity, I realize. As much as I believe I am full of unconditional love, I don’t think I’d be able to stay in a relationship with someone who cheated on me, especially because I ask for clear, honest communication from the very beginning when getting to know someone.
I don’t like head games and only want to hear truths, even if they hurt. If my partner is starting to have feelings of cheating, I would rather her come right up to me and say, “I’m having feelings of cheating,” than have her hide it. Or, at a minimum, tell me she is not feeling the passion in the relationship anymore. At least when it’s out on the table like that, it might actually save our relationship instead of creating what could be a nightmare of pain in the future.
Your Next Step
1. If you have been cheated on, forgive yourself first.
Forgive yourself if you feel stupid, conned, or whatever. Forgive yourself for allowing certain people or behaviors into your life.
Then, after you forgive yourself, you can be open to forgiving others. If the cheater regrets their behavior and you believe they are sincere, that’s when you can start healing with them. And when you’re ready, you can step into who you want to be in a relationship and not let the fear of someone cheating again plague your life.
I won’t lie: The cheater could cheat again.
But that’s true of anyone. Couldn’t anyone, even those who’ve never cheated, have an affair? In the right circumstances, under the perfect conditions, the temptations are there. So we either trust the one we are with or we don’t.
When it comes to your healing, it’s the same thing: You either trust the person you are with, former cheater or not, or you don’t. If you don’t trust them, then you need to gauge whether they are genuinely earning your trust day by day or not. If not, you may always have an underlayer of distrust toward them.
Once you believe that their behaviors are helping you earn their trust again, you can decide if this is a relationship you want to continue.
2. If you suspect your partner may be cheating, confront them. Ask them.
If the communication in your relationship is ambiguous, you’ll always have suspicions. But if you are direct and want to know the truth, ask direct questions. A cheater may lie, but go with your instincts.
I once asked the victim of a cheater what her instincts told her, and she said she believed from the beginning that he was cheating. But denial kept her in the relationship.
When they broke up, he would cry and beg her to come back as part of his manipulation. He promised to change and be an honest husband again. But her instincts told her otherwise. And as soon as she let her rationalizations kick in where she had thoughts like, “Well, he did seem sincere”, or “he did promise, so I guess he meant it”, she still chose her logic over her instincts.
We have instincts for a reason. Trust in those first, and then go from there.
3. If you are considering cheating, remember that you are committing emotional murder.
It’s harsh, I know, but when you have someone’s heart, you have the most vulnerable part of them. And by betraying the trust they have given you, you are chipping away at their very soul.
Yes, it sounds so dramatic, but I’m helping you avoid a massive mistake. If you feel like cheating, tell your partner just that. Or, at a minimum, express to them how you’re not happy in the relationship. Express hard truths to them. It probably won’t go well, but it will get everything out in the open.
The truth could end everything right then and there. But if that happens, then you get to do what you intended to do in the first place. But at least it won’t be committing a betrayal against someone who trusts you, subsequently causing so much pain and suffering.
Or, being this honest could lead to the most powerful, healing, and bonding experience of your relationship. Remember, what isn’t talked about gets buried and comes out in destructive ways later.
4. Finally, if you have cheated on someone, you regret it, and you know that you will never do it again, and your partner wants to rebuild the relationship, you will probably have to suffer some punishment for a while.
Your partner will want you to feel guilty, shame, and remorse. They will want you to know how much pain you made them feel and will want you to walk around like a beaten dog with your tail between your legs.
There are very few people who forgive right away, especially for betrayal, so expect this to happen. And quite frankly, maybe you deserve to be punished for a while. Maybe you deserve to feel all of this negativity so that you can remember what it was like to put someone through it yourself.
I’m not making any judgments on whether you actually deserve it or not, but this kind of backlash is very likely unavoidable. What goes around comes around. It’s the natural order of life. When you go over to the greener grass, your own grass will eventually die.
When you want to save your relationship after betraying your partner, the punishment is inevitable and almost always unavoidable. But when enough time has passed, whether it’s three months, six months, or even a year, you’ll be able to crawl out of the hole you’ve been in so that you can start living life again.
You may have committed emotional murder, but you shouldn’t be sentenced to it for life. Eventually, you need to step into your power again, not only for you but for the other person as well.
One half of a relationship that is feeling shame, guilt, and regret does not make for a healthy relationship. When enough time has passed, there needs to be progress. Keeping your head down in shame is not what a truly committed life partner wants or needs in their life. Stand up and step into a higher self.
And if any of the people you cheated with come back into your life, stop communication as soon as possible and return to your partner’s side so that you can be the rock of stability that will not be tempted ever again.
If you are truly committed to the relationship you are in and want to rebuild it, then it’s up to you to remove anything that’s a threat to the harmony you are trying to create. Old flames can burn your relationship to the ground. Show your partner that you are always carrying the proverbial fire extinguisher so they know you are committed to them. It’s a corny reference, I know, but sometimes it helps to hold an image in your head so that you can act swiftly when needed.
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If you’re in a relationship that has experienced an affair, choosing to save it will be a tough decision to come to. Some are worth saving. Others may never have had a chance to begin with. My wish for you is that you keep the line of communication open.
Don’t be afraid to confront and face hard truths because that is what prevents a lot of this from happening in the first place.
Whoever you are and whatever you’ve done, if your intentions are true and you want things to work out, and enough time has passed, step into your power and be the person your partner wants and admires.
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Final Words
Expressing the hard truths about yourself to your partner is the first step in establishing a strong foundation in a relationship. As you express the hard truths, you add another brick to the relationship foundation. The hard truth is real, not based on hope or fear. Hard truths, when addressed right up front, will leave less room for surprises later on.
It doesn’t matter if you’ve cheated or not or if someone has cheated on you or not; the foundation you start to build or rebuild is what sets the tone for the rest of your relationship. If you build a strong foundation of communication, you will always know where each other is in the relationship.
It can be hard, I know. But it’s easier to go through the hard stuff now to avoid the pain that could come up later.
You can do this.
Wow! Such a powerful post Paul! My first marriage ended after 14 years due to my ex’s infidelity. I would 100% agree that it was my most painful experience to date. To find out the person that you trusted the most in the world had committed the biggest form of betrayal was crushing and completely unthinkable.
With that said, the ensuing path to healing has brought me to much personal growth and happiness. I can NOW say that I would not trade that experience, yet I would not want to go through it for a second time around. I feel that the experience helped me to become a better person and it lead me to my true soul mate.
That is such a great perspective Celest! Thank you so much for sharing your history. The betrayal of trust is painful, but healing is possible. Painful, yet powerful lesson you’ve had. I’m so glad the story had a happy ending!
My husband had an emotional affair with the neighbor girl and I can’t seem to get over it. He convinced me he hates me. I can’t think of any other reason a husband would treat his wife so poorly. She came over to my house EVERYDAY, ONLY at times I wasn’t home. If I left for 5 min to mail a letter upon my return she was at my house, if I left for 20 min to run to the bank upon my return she would be at my house, if I was gone 2 hrs grocery shopping with the kids upon my return she would greet me at the door with a guilty look on her face and then go home, if I was at work for 10 hours upon my return they would be getting drunk together in my driveway. Then he started telling me he was horny after spending all day with her. Gee, I wonder why. She is 26 years younger than him, blonde hair, blue eyes and big boobs. I thought my husband was trying to get me jealous so I ignored his immature attempts. Then he started making plans with her to go on outings. One day I had enough, I cam home from work to once again find them getting drunk together, he asked her to go to the Nitrous Circus in front of me and referred themselves as a couple “we” need you to come to drive us and watch the kids. With an invitation like that of course I said no. She said that’s okay, I’ll drive your car. After going back and forth yes I will, no you won’t I dropped it. Then we watched her husband drive off to work we came inside my house and she announced that she was going home to get a bottle of rum. My husband whispered in her ear right in front of me, slammed the door in my face and went home drunk with her. She left her 1 year old with me without asking if I would watch him. I was left there like a chump watching her kid as my husband went home drunk with her. That was the last straw for me. I forced him to stop seeing her and he has, but I have not gotten over his intentional deliberate hurtful actions towards me with this other girl. I have given our marriage a year since there are kids involved, but I still feel so deeply hurt. He thinks I should just get over this as he says no sex was involved. He spent a significant amount of alone time with her on a daily basis for months. Time he never seemed to have for me. He made me watch him pursue another woman, a woman 1/2 my age. I thought this was an immature attempt to make me jealous and ignored it for months, but he kept taking it to new levels until he finally took it too far and I believe he destroyed our marriage for good.
Thanks so much for sharing that Katy. This is one of those situations where your toleration level gets higher and higher because there never seems to be any accountability for his actions.
When there’s no accountability, people learn that they can keep pushing – because they never have to pay the consequences.
So if you continue allowing this to go on, it absolutely will. If you show that you will never leave even though it’s going on, it absolutely will.
When you’re in a healthy relationship, the two-way street is this:
You want the other person to be happy, even at the cost of losing them.
What does that mean in your situation? Well, if he wanted you to be happy, then he wouldn’t deliberately do things that continue to make you unhappy. So the question is:
Do you want to stay with someone who doesn’t want you to be happy?
If the answer is “no”, then you definitely have some tough decisions to make. And yes, the answer should be “NO”. I understand having kids and wanting to keep the family together, but your kids learn how to be parents by watching their parents.
If Dad gets drunk with the neighbor girl, and Mom gets angry but doesn’t leave, then it may show the kids that the behavior is bad but not bad enough. If Mom stays with someone who doesn’t want her to be happy, then perhaps the kids will learn that’s what love is and choose the wrong partner in life themselves.
I’m not saying you chose the wrong partner, but I do think you might want to consider starting to provide serious accountability for his actions if you want your relationship to survive. Your relationship may not survive, but can you love yourself enough to choose to only be with people that honor your happiness?
It’s challenging, but something HAS to change. The question is how much more can you allow this to go on before you have a breakdown?
I wish you the best with this. I know it’s hard and not what you wanted your marriage to look like. You do have options, and it may be time to consider a change in some way.
He did stop seeing her, only because I forced him to. It’s been almost a year now, but I can’t seem to get over how he treated me. Maybe because it was on a daily basis and for 6 months, everyday. He thinks I should just get over it, but I don’t know how. Maybe he should get over the fact that his actions caused me to fall completely out of love with him. I feel like I haven’t had any closure with what he did to me and how he treated me with another woman, a woman 1/2 my age. I used to think I was his #1 girl and I no longer feel that way. I feel that he put this girl above me and made her a priority over me and our marriage.
That’s absolutely what he did Katy: He put someone else above you and between the both of you.
Does he show ANY of his old behavior now? Does he show any remorse? Does he care that you were hurt?
If you answered “no” to any of those questions, then here’s the undeniable truth: The only closure you’ll get is what you create. Do not expect closure from him, because if it hasn’t happened by now, it won’t.
A person who wants to keep a relationship puts a lot of effort into it. If there’s no effort on his part, then maybe he doesn’t want the relationship.
I know that sounds cold, but sometimes people give us a chance to make decisions that are right for us because they won’t get off the pot.
If you can accept who he is, then you can probably stay and be fine. If you can’t, then you have a decision to make. Stay and reject him or leave.
If you stay and reject him because you can’t get over his previous or current behavior, then you forfeit your own power. If you stay and accept him, then at least you’ll know what to expect.
I’m not saying to leave him, but I do promote not staying with someone who simply doesn’t care about you. You are much, much more worthy than that.
Thank you so much for your advice. It has been the best advice I have gotten thus far. I told him I wanted him to move out, that I couldn’t continue to live like this with him and be so unhappy. He said he needed some time and I asked him to be specific, so I could mark it down on the calendar. He told me a month. The next day he called me from work and told me how sorry he was for hurting me so bad and said he wants to work this out. He told me he would never ever again behave this way. He said the same as he learned his lesson when he got a DUI, he never drinks even one sip and drives. That he’s learned his lesson in this same manner and will never behave this way again nor treat me this way. I believe him. We are back together and working on us, now. Now it is up to me to work on getting his past behavior out of my head. I hope I am able to. No matter what, I don’t think I’ll ever be able to feel the same way about him ever again. The damage is done and there is no going back and changing the past. It is so very sad.
It is sad, and you are right – the damage is done and it can’t be changed.
However, if you really want to make this work, he has a massive job ahead: Regaining your trust.
The only way I’ve seen this work is for the person who cheated to go above and beyond proving himself to be loyal and worthy of you.
Repeat that to yourself: He needs to prove himself worthy of YOU. This means he has an uphill climb ahead because you’ve had to raise the bar of trust higher than it’s ever been.
You are going to have setbacks and challenges through this. If he is truly apologetic and wants to have a go at this, his primary goal is to be transparent with you with everything. AND he needs to accept that you will still be triggered and suspicious, and like a boy that caught stealing cookies from the cookie jar, he will need to stand their judged and questioned while you go through your trigger.
His answers to your questions should never be, “Why should I show you my phone?” and ALWAYS be, “Absolutely, here’s my phone, no problem. I understand completely.”
He has some trials to go through and you have every right to put him through them.
As you do this, your trust will build.
UNLESS… it doesn’t. If your trust doesn’t build after several months of doing this, and you still feel like he is hiding things, then you may need to explore things a little deeper with professional help.
The idea behind this is to learn how to trust him as the new and improved person he IS, not the person he was. However, he will still be under the magnifying glass until you are ready to trust him fully again.
But the trust you want to have for him will be mainly his responsibility to build. The more transparent and forthcoming with information he is, the more you acknowledge, recognize and compliment him for doing so.
He also needs to be ready for your unexpected outbursts of anger. This is like a buildup of what you’ve yet to process and release yet. It’s normal and healthy for it to come out. It will be hard for him, but he will have to pay that price for a while because you deserve to feel what you feel.
You are worthy and he needs to live up to your new standards. If he can’t or won’t do it, then maybe he really doesn’t want to go through the process of being forgiven OR he just doesn’t have it in him to love you the way you deserve to be loved.
If you need personal help with this, you can always reach out to me for personal coaching or find a therapist in your area. One way or another, I want you both to heal and move through it or move on.
The pain will be there a while, but if you’re both committed to making this work, a new trust can build on top of a new foundation.
I’m rooting for the both of you.
Thank you for your quick responses you have been very helpful and understanding to me. I do have triggers and set backs as she lives two doors away from me, it is hard to put all this in the past. I go through daily emotional abuse by her living so close by. My husband suggested moving, but I don’t want to sign a mortgage with someone I no longer trust.
I have no desire to go through his phone, all his disrespect was in an in my face manner. I wish it was behind my back, that would have at least showed that he cared a little about my feelings. He thinks he did nothing wrong because there was no sex involved. I would prefer him to have had a one night stand instead of doing what he did to me, it would have been less cruel. Thank you for validating my feelings, you have made me feel better. He has been nicer to me and is finally showing genuine remorse. He said he never wanted to hurt me this badly. I think he was enjoying getting his ego stroked and enjoyed sticking it to me in the process. Involving alcohol and drugs with a female 26 years younger than you and telling your wife she is just your “drinking buddy” is never a good idea. She came to our door EVERYDAY, I guess opportunity knocked and he didn’t want to pass it up. That’s still no reason for him to go out of his way to treat me disrespectfully. It’s so out of character for him and he claims to be this huge Christian man, I am having such a hard time understanding the “why” of this entire situation. Could it be he’s going through a midlife crisis? He is 48.
I wouldn’t blame it on anything but temptation, disrespect, dishonesty and a lack of compassion for you. It could be related to a number of things, including a mid-life crisis, yes. But it doesn’t matter because it was still everything I mention above.
He betrayed your trust, regardless of what he’s going through. The reason I say that is because I don’t want you to attribute it to anything but what it is. He made a conscious choice to do what he did.
Everyone has temptations and some act on them and some don’t. If you really want to develop more open and honest communication, ask him what tempts him and why.
A conversation like that will be uncomfortable and maybe even make you angry, but it will also be revealing. I’m not saying you have to do this, but maybe it’s what needs to happen (talking about the hard stuff) in order for you to give you more understanding.
Many of us go through a process of questioning what we’ve done in our lives up to this point. The longer you’re with someone, the more likely the thought of “What if I was with that person instead?” is going to come up.
It doesn’t happen to everyone, but the What Ifs are how our brain works. After that, it’s a matter of not acting upon impulse and wanting to find out! I think far too many people don’t consider what’s at stake when they choose to cheat. It’s more about instant gratification than long-term realization.
I don’t know if there’s a clear method of avoiding things like this in a relationship except full, open communication, even about temptations. But that doesn’t happen without a lot of built-up trust first.
I understand what you are saying, but it was no mystery what tempted him, a young pretty girl with big boobs came knocking at his door everyday to hang out with him and get drunk with him and party with him. Not many guys would pass that up. What I can’t seem to get over is him going out of his way to disrespect me even more. It was obvious he was trying to get me jealous for some reason and maybe he got upset when I didn’t. I am not a jealous person. I trusted him and had no reason to be jealous of someone my daughter’s age. Now I just think he is a perv and creep. It is very crushing to be treated so poorly by someone you’ve spent 24 years with and whom you thought was the love of your life and soul mate, someone who you thought you were their #1 girl. While I was thinking about growing old with my husband and felt very content with out relationship, he was busy partying with another girl, a very young girl, too young, and busy making plans to go on outings with her. We just got back from a week vacation, and while viewing other families and watching other husbands hold their wife’s hand and holding them close, I couldn’t have felt more disconnected from my husband. I was under the impression that he wanted us to take a vacation together to bring us closer, but I was wrong I couldn’t have felt any further away from him. He made no attempt at all to be close to me and I am done putting in the effort. I feel our marriage is over. I look back and realize that I was the only one investing in this marriage and now that I’ve stopped, neither one of us is investing. After he treated me the way he did, I just don’t feel the same about him and don’t see myself ever feeling that way again. It is so very sad. I think he caused irrepairable damage to our marriage and destroyed it and he doesn’t really care to fix it. I don’t want to tell him what to do, that’s pathetic. He should WANT to hold his wife’s hand once in a while and WANT to be close to her and WANT to be interested in her. I’m just not feeling it anymore. i gave it a chance. I gave it over a year. I believe I’m done, we’re done.
All of your words come from an empowering, if not painful place. You’re right, a loving husband who wants to make his wife feel special is going to reach out to her and want to hold her or show her that he loves her. He is going to want to show her off in front of people, really being comfortable being with you and loving that others know that you are with him. If you are not feeling loved, supported and nurtured, and it’s especially prevalent in public, then it’s time to accept that he has another agenda in mind and do what you need to do for you.
Manipulation is when someone finds a way to make you do and think things that serve them and hurt you. Love is when you want the person you’re with to be happy. If he can’t accomplish that, then he may not be capable of loving you. You are worthy of much better behavior so maybe it’s time you stopped settling for someone who doesn’t seem to care.
You’ve given this more chances than most people would, so it’s time to give yourself the loving treatment you deserve.
one thing you never mention is what if the cheater is not even sorry. My husband had an affair with a married women for the last year and a half of our marriage. I confronted him a lot about my suspicions and of course he always denied it. I am very strong in my faith prayed a lot and finally he admitted the affair lied though several times about whom it was with. After 15 years together he just packed a bag and walked out on the kids and I. I t has been close to a year now and he is still not one bit remorseful. I have had to deal with all of the pain without any answers. He has never even had an adult conversation about our marriage being over why he did it or anything. He never said he was unhappy before he cheated and swore to me from day 1 that cheating and divorce were never an option for him. He is still with her and she is still married although her husband knows as well. I would never take him back and I know that i have great thing in life ahead of me. It has been as painful as emotional murder for sure and yet i have to hold it all together for the family that he has walked out on. He doesn’t spend much time with them but in his mind he thinks he is a fabulous Dad. He clearly favors our son and quite often ignores our daughter. I want to put him out of my head for good.I want to get rid of all the negativity that comes from him. I have to be around him and his mistress every weekend due to the fact that he chose a mom on my sons sport team.
Thanks for sharing this Ann – sorry you had to experience it. When we get into a relationship, part of our identity gets wrapped up into it as well. What you do and say and what he does and says becomes a part of you. So when he deceives, it hurts! It’s a part of YOU and you don’t want to lose a part of you.
You don’t want that person anymore, at least not the person who lies and doesn’t seem to care about you, but it’s almost like you want that part of you that you used to feel when everything was good so long ago.
When my wife left, the part of me that was comfortable and happy being with her had to be released. The hardest part was coming to a place inside that I truly am releasing a part of myself. It can be like cutting your own arm off. It’s something you don’t want to do, but if that part of you diseased or dead, you’d do it to save yourself for sure.
I’m sorry for the graphic description, but it’s a powerful metaphor for what happens at the end of a relationship, especially where there is infidelity. Emotional Murder is physically painful. And in order to be free of the pain, we have to let go of a part of ourselves.
He is toxic, so he will need to be released, and that is letting go a part of yourself.
That doesn’t mean you lose love and happiness. Quite the opposite in fact. Letting go of the part of you that is still attached to that toxic person allows you to love yourself again to feel the wholeness of being all that is YOU. But it’s hard to really be loving and compassionate toward yourself when you still have that part of you that is toxic.
I realize this isn’t easy, especially because there are kids involved and you still have to see him but allow yourself to grieve and treat this as a death. THIS relationship didn’t work as planned, so regroup and recharge and start focusing on yourself.
There is usually something within you that attracts a certain person in your life. When you heal from whatever you brought into this relationship in the first place, you won’t attract that type of person again. There is a part of you that is still tethered to what was is now poisoned, so realizing that releasing it will free you from the poison is a start.
I know there was a time when you were in love and happy. So I want you to ask yourself:
“If I found someone else who made me feel loved, happy and safe, would I allow that person into my life?”
If your answer is Yes, then you need to make space for that new person as if they are just waiting for the air to clear. That could mean months of introspection and healing from things way before your relationship ever started. It could also mean accepting the death of this relationship and going through a powerful, painful grieving just so you can get past the precipice of pain that precedes a breakthrough and new state of healing and calm.
If your answer is No to that question, then ask:
“If I found someone who made me feel just as wonderful as he once did, but maybe better, and safer then I’ve ever felt, would I entertain the idea of another person in my life?”
I’m not saying to jump into another relationship, but I am saying that the start to your healing is considering other possibilities in your life and not wrapping up all that is good and happy into what WAS in this relationship (before the deception started).
Your mission: Write him a letter saying every nasty thing you want to say to him. But don’t send it.
Re-read it… do you still feel just as upset or more? If so, write more. Make sure it is directed at him and everything he’s done and promised. But don’t send it. Just write it. And don’t hold back.
Writing will slow your thought processes down so that you are very clear what you are thinking and feeling, and will be able to express it.
I hope this helps. Accept that this is him now. He is toxic for you and you just need to detox for a while and thank God / Source / the Universe that he is now someone else’s problem.
I wish you the best.
Thank you very much for getting back to me so quickly. I will write that letter and not send it. It’s very confusing when someone you loved so deeply discards you as trash. Right up to the day he walked out he swore he loved me an divorce was not an option that we would get through this hard time but he was not having an affair. Only through power group prayer and God in intervening was the truth able to come out. He still is very toxic and tries to put all blame on me for everything. I know God has greatness out there for me and my life will be so much better. I am working also with a therapist to overcome past abandament issues along with some other deep wounds. Do you know what makes people be able to treat their family in such horrific ways and have no remorse?
I wish the best for you Ann. I’m glad to hear you have a support system!
In my experience, many people seek today what they never received as children. Dysfunctions develop out of unfulfilled needs, and survival mechanisms kick in because the child feels threatened in some way.
The combination of unfulfilled needs and survival behavior can create selfish and unremorseful behavior unfortunately. The first few months or years of a relationship can be wonderful, then when those unfulfilled needs rise up in someone, they can become laser focused to get them met.
One example I’ve heard is a person with Anti-Social Personality Disorder might push his own mother out of the way to get to the cookie jar. It’s not that they don’t care about other people, it’s that they may not even have the ability to care for other people.
Some people don’t have the ability to be compassionate. They may seem compassionate at times, but it can be only to fulfill selfish wants and desires.
I don’t know if some people can be cured of this. I’m in contact with at least one person like this on a regular basis and he gives no mind to anyone but himself. He seems not to care about anyone else’s feelings. He feels no sympathy or empathy.
To the outside world, he’s honest, caring and respectful. But knowing his history and seeing his patterns, it’s very clear that it’s all about fulfilling his own needs whether anyone else is in the way or not.
The sad part is he doesn’t understand that there’s a problem with it. He just has no idea what’s unethical or immoral. He explains things in a way that resemble a lunatic but are perfectly normal to him.
It’s hard to think that not everyone has a conscience. Not everyone is capable of loving and supporting others. We are all very similar, but some are not. Some people are simply wired differently and cannot be rewired.
I hope they can be rewired, but the consensus is that they cannot.
I’ve seen prison documentaries where they interview murderers who simply cannot fathom that what they did was wrong, nor have any compassion for who they’ve hurt or killed.
They don’t go where most people go in their mind – they are just clueless that hurting others is wrong. They learn when there are consequences, for sure, but then they just blame society for being wrong and implementing “stupid laws”. They have to abide by them not because of morality, but to stay out of trouble.
Unfortunately, people like this exist. I’m not saying your husband is one of them, because that could just be a case of him being fearful or cowardice to act like an adult and speak his truth way before he cheated on you. I don’t know. But there are people out there that cannot feel remorse.
It’s a sad reality. The only thing we can do is figure out if the people around us are all about getting their own needs met selfishly, or with others in mind.
Just look at how they treat their family, the waiter or waitress, or other people (not friends, but everyone else) to see who they are overall. Their character is revealed through the interaction with others many times.
What if they seem to treat strangers better than you. My husband is super polite, helpful, and compliments others often, but doesn’t do that with me…ouch! It really does feel like emotional rape. When you realize how kind and loving they can be with another woman and in the same night emotional and verbally abuse you, in front of your kids…it’s very painful and feels like emotional murder for sure. He talks about the people he works with as “his family” and how important people from high school are to him, he’s 50 yrs. old. Is this the mid-life crisis everyone is talking about? He was also abandoned often by his mom, I mean he would literally come home from school and she would say, you’re moving in with your Aunt and Uncle and would have his stuff packed. His dad was an alcoholic and his visitations with him would often be him and his brothers waiting in a bar parking lot while his dad would stop there for just a minute. Abandonment issues are really at the heart of all this.
It is very common that they are a different person at home than they are with anyone else. That is part of emotionally abusive behavior. They usually treat everyone else with kindness and respect, and the one they’re supposed to treat the best they treat the worst. That’s because once they know you are locked into the relationship, they can be their true selves. They don’t have to act anymore. What you see at home is who he really is. That’s how you can tell who someone is – how they treat the closest people in their family, especially their romantic partner.
I hope you are tuning into my other podcast, Love and Abuse. It sounds like it would be very helpful to you. Regardless of what past traumas he went through, it clearly doesn’t affect him in how he treats everyone else but you. So I can’t see that as an excuse or reason for his mistreatment of the person who is supposed to be the closest one in his life. Sorry you are going through this.
Thank you for your good information and sorry this is long. It’s the short version too. Of course what happened to me is cruel with no remorse from my ex boyfriend of eleven years. He started us out cheating one drunk night with his ex. He was sorry, then lied, changed what happened when I was leaving him. Being distraught I believed him, sort of. He still hung with her sometimes and alone. A year later he told the truth, not nicely but in an aggravated I’ve been caught and don’t like it way. Did he cheat more with her? Who knows! I didn’t think I could deal with it but he said we can work through this I know we can. Less than a year of me not being okay because he is not working through it he secretly lunches and secretly texts with his just turned 17 year old teenage coworker who is paying attention to my then 25 year old boyfriend. I discover it and he gets mad at me for catching him in his lies. He lies nonstop even more, a lot. He is cold and cruel to me. Several months later she goes back with her boyfriend. Mine is nice to me again. Several months after that her and her boyfriend move to another state. Now my boyfriend is all over me again, so in love with me. We have a lot of fun but I never got over anything and something would set me off time to time. I have many outbursts here and there. Then just over a year later the worst most unimaginable tragedy happens. My beautiful daughter dies! I can’t begin to explain the pain. I will never be the same. I explain this to my boyfriend and because it is such horrible sad emotions it makes everything he did magnifyed. I am horrifically sad. I don’t know how I can live. He never understood. Now all my outbursts are intensified and more frequent as all my emotions mesh together. He’s tired of my outbursts, me too. I beg him for help. I know he can’t take back what he did. He promised to fix us. He never did. I told him a simple solution. Give my phone number to your family and best friend and let us text, get to know each other then I would feel he really cares as he would be doing something kind that I asked for. He never did it. So easy. He also felt he can’t do fun things, concerts and such due to my sadness. He never ever mentioned my daughter or asked how I am doing. Never offered any help about her or about what he did. He had regret for getting caught cheating and lying but no remorse. So fast forward four years after my child is gone my loving calm boyfriend decides to play a cruel mind game on me. I asked him to please never cheat on me again as it is so painful and I can’t take it again. So he played a cruel mind game. He always needs to have someone as he hooked me before leaving his ex which I just thought he was a player, not in a relationship. He oddly became cold distant pretending he had a mental illness. Every day for 7 months he said he’s not well and breaking down. Every day for 6 months he would leave 7 days a week saying he just needs to be alone to get better. I didn’t know what to do. He wouldn’t talk. I barely got a text either and it was my car he took every day. The more I text and called him the more he would blame me making him worse and then he can’t answer because he’s breaking down crying all day long. He told me he called his mom to say goodbye. I don’t have her phone number or I would’ve called. He tells me he doesn’t want to live. He could kill himself. He looked like he was cheating as he was really nicely grooming himself and buying new clothes. I told him that is odd for such a not well person. He finally started staying out till 11 30pm. He kept saying he’s not well and just needs to get better. He continues to stay out late claiming not well, coming home sleeping next to me every night. He used the I’m feeling like I could kill myself several times. He acts so strange, barely speaks to me. I try to help him. Ask him to get counseling. I am there for him every single day always waiting and guessing. 7 months of this mind torture all the while telling me he’s not moving out when the lease is up. 7 months later the lease is up. I sign. I remind him to sign the lease as he said he’s not leaving. All of a sudden a guy at work let’s him stay at his place a couple days so he can think, then he just up and left me. No warning. I could’ve moved to a cheaper place as now I am left with the entire monthly rent. He ended us because he can’t be in a relationship right now, so he said. He has to be alone and get well. The whole next month he claims he is living with this guy. I asked if we can work on getting back together. He said maybe but I have to get well. Well the real truth! He had an affair the entire 7 months with a coworker. He told her I had moved out and we have identical cars that’s why he’s still driving the same kind of car I have. He told her she can’t come over to his place because when I lived there I was dirty and there’s cockroaches. The real reason is because I never moved out. He also never moved in with the guy, he moved in with her but kept lying another month until I found out. He lied to my face every single day and I tried to help his not wellness that was really fake. Even the new woman said so. It was all a scam so he could hook someone before dumping me. So he pretended mental illness and that he might kill himself so I wouldn’t bother him while he was having an affair the entire time with secret plans to leave me for her, the entire 7 months. And the cruelest part of his cruel mind game!, my daughter died by suicide! How cruel of him to play a mind game and to fake he could kill himself when my daughter did. My mind is totally devastated! And that the man I was so in love with and he would remind me for most of those years every day he was completely in love with me and so happy I was his girl. He always told me I make him the happiest he’s ever been. I was a ton of fun and very exciting. I would always have adventures for us and I did anything and everything until my daughter left us. Only some of me came back but I tried hard to still be fun and hide my sadness from him. Is he a narcissist?, a sociopath? He has never apologized for his cruel actions since I found out. He only got mad because the new woman, his new love, (which I am still totally shocked about) found out he told her huge insane lies. She left him. He called me telling me I need to fix what I did and get her back. That alone says all there is to say about him. I sure didn’t know they were together until I called asking for her help because I was afraid he wasn’t well. Then her and I found out the truth. He told huge insane lies to both of us, was cruel to me for 8 full months of this horrid mind game and he has that kind of nerve. He never thought I’d call her because of his lies. He has blocked me in his phone now because I thought that was mean of him to tell me to fix his lies. I think she went back with him though just from what her last text said. Sadly by her doing that she just dismissed what he did to me and sadly she just accepted it. So it’s okay with her that he was mean to me. How sad and odd. It’s like he got away with murder because he totally ripped my heart out with his cruel mind game. Mind games are dangerous. He is calm and is really good at calmly lying to your face and he can just keep going. He even admitted to having a big problem getting deep in lies. A mind game could cause a person to take their own life which I had thoughts of doing as he kept turning all his bad around on me. I started to feel like I was doing harm by being nice trying to help. During those 7 months he even thanked me for being nice and all while taking her to dinner and movies with my car and driving my car to her place to have sex then coming home late sleeping right next to me in our bed. I AM NOT OKAY! So yes I have been through both. The death of my child, which the pain never ends and the cruelest lose of my guy who wanted to be with me forever. So much pain!
There is a lot of pain here, thank you so much for expressing all of it. You’ve experience both of the worst kinds of pain too, and on top of that, received the worst treatment imaginable.
He is a manipulator and doesn’t know any other way to be. He will never change and will always lie to you and hurt you, so I hope you are doing what you can to cut him out of your life and block him from ever contacting you again.
Any contact with him is toxic and part of his bigger game for selfish gain. You may have loved some of the times with him, but the underlying doubt and pain will always outweigh the good times.
You may have some healing to do, not from the loss of your daughter (that is painful and only time heals that) but from the person you were who would continue to return to someone you know is unhealthy for you.
Manipulators know EXACTLY what to say to you at all times because they test, test and test again. They’ll test their words and wait for your reaction. When they sense a pattern of agreement or submission, they’ll use what they learned against you so that you’ll always think they’re on your side.
They’re very good at making you feel bad for them.
Don’t be fooled – they are charming and deadly. Like a suave, sensitive, good looking serial killer. It’s a ploy to lure you in. Whatever vulnerabilities you have, they learn to exploit. In fact, the more generous, kind and caring you are, the more they use that against you.
You are worth so much more than that. You are worth the truth and nothing but the truth, always. There is no room for one lie let alone hundreds. People like that are like crack cocaine. They are addictive and will eventually kill you (not literally, but certainly energetically and spiritually).
As long as you have goodness left in you, he will exploit it to take advantage of you.
Everything he says and does is a tactic for selfish gain. It sounds like you’ve learned who he is and will not fall for his game again, but if not, please take it from me: I’ve seen this before and these people are to be avoided at all costs. Disconnect and block and every turn.
I want you to be able to heal from this and move on. Thank you again for sharing this. I know you can get through all this and I hope your story helps light a path for others that are in your situation.
I appreciate you!
I treasure your podcasts but as a victim of betrayal I think when you use the word MISTAKE in the same sentence as cheating is a complete lack of understanding. A mistake is when you try your best on your math test and miss a step on a question. How can you say cheating is emotional murder and then say it was a mistake on behalf of the betrayer. Murder is not a mistake.
That’s an excellent point! I agree, in many cases it wont’ be a mistake. In the mind of the cheater, it might be a mistake and not intentionally aimed at harming other people. Albeit, a very, very selfish “mistake” for sure.
Not all victims feel emotionally murdered though either. I’ve talked with many that chose to stay with cheaters even though they know the person is still cheating. Some marriages are so dysfunctional that the cheating is only a small part of what makes it bad.
This is a very complex, sensitive, and multi-faceted subject to approach and the words I used in this article can certainly be interchanged for other words for sure (depending on your involvement and if you were the victim or the betrayer).
The truth is that people do make mistakes. Some can be forgiven, some can’t. Someone like yourself that has been emotionally murdered may never see it that way. And you have every right to to be upset about this use of wording on my part.
Thank you so much for sharing. Sorry you had to deal with this first hand!
Thank you for your kindness! Thanks for replying back! You are right losing my child I will never heal from. So right now I have to separate losing her and losing him just to make my point what happens when someone does a mean cruel mind game. One thing everyone thought my boyfriend and I were so great and cute together. We were sweetly comfortable. I fell in love with his charm and calm. He fell in love with my fun excitement, loyalty, kindness and a silly side. We had a really cool fun loving closeness, even after the first stuff he did wrong. Now I can only think of the torture he put me through, the icky insane lies, ugly creepy cheating that he promised he’d never do again. It’s so sad because he has ruined my trust in people and I can’t imagine ever being in a relationship again. I loved the soul mate feeling with him, the comfort of coming home to him, hanging out playing video games and everything we did and plans we had made to go on several vacations again. The places we had already picked out together. He took it all away! Everything I thought we were is gone! I can never find that again and he was who I loved having that with. I don’t want that with anyone but him! Now she gets all of that! Everything we were going to do he will do with her now and we were so excited. That is devastating. We had what I loved. It doesn’t register in my head what he did to me. He changed big time for the worst instead of talking to me. If he had talked about us in the first place we could’ve been okay and he wouldn’t have to replace me. It has really affected me. Even my other adult daughter is very affected by what he did as she witnessed it all while living with us during that time. Even she had put him on a pedastal thinking he was a better person than that. She is shocked at what he did to me. Now she can’t even trust anyone. I am a bit older than him but we both agreed I was the youthful one of us and the excitement of us. His new woman is also quite a bit older but kind of uppity and thinks highly of herself so she’s a new interesting challenge for him as he now acts sophisticated. He even lied about things we did together and a show we watched that he bought for us but she is to sophisticated for so he lied about it. She may be a wonderful person, I don’t know but she doesn’t seem to care what he did to me. She said she just wants us all to move on like sane mature adults. Ah.. I was cheated on a long time, insanely lied to and a cruel mind game played on. I was so nice to her and she only cared to find out if he is done with lies to her now. The only one who needs to be a sane mature adult is him. Well she won him and he sweet talked her right back even though she read the months worth of texts I still had from him showing his lies and his huge insane lies he told in front of her, my daughter who I brought to the meeting and myself. This new woman said she’s strong and confident. Funny thing she never once apologized to me after hearing the lies and now knowing she was seeing my boyfriend while we were still in a relationship. That too hurts! And it would’ve been really good if she apologized to me in front of him seeing as she was pretty mad at him, then it would’ve had an affect on him which would’ve been good. At the start of this meeting she asked for, she told my daughter and I she is going to believe him but by the time she read everything and heard more lies that we corrected she no longer believed him and was so mad at him. But she ended up taking him back anyway. So he got away with what he did and he got her! He’s on his own pedastal looking down on me now. Like haha I’m the winner! I don’t see him anymore and hope I can forget him. But how sad it’s like I have to erase the last 11 years of my life with him, like it never meant anything. I was so in love with him and now I’m just messed up. It is hard to let go of the good part we had. Really hard. The part we both really loved. But he doesn’t love me anymore. Just like that I was so easy for him to give up and throw away. Thanks for your time and a place for me to talk it out. I will never get an apology from him and it will never be okay what he did. An apology isn’t even enough to take away the pain he caused. A note to everyone reading these comments, please be kind and talk things out with your loved one before you let your love fall away and never ever find a replacement lover while in a relationship because you decide it’s over and you don’t want to be alone when you leave. It’s very cruel and extremely selfish and what it does mentally to the one you leave behind is very damaging and possibly unrepairable. It is the destruction of a human being who feels and hurts and may never recover from the extreme harm. Again thank you for letting me put my pain on your site!
Well said. The pain is real and crushed dreams are devastating. The way I see it, she is now stuck with him and will always have to question when the first lie and first betrayal will happen. You will never have to deal with that again. Sure, some men are cruel and selfish, but not all.
When my first long-term girlfriend left me, she was married two months later. That made me question all kinds of things! But I never looked at every woman as the same as her. Each woman is different and has a chance to be the best damn relationship ever. And no matter how many women have broken up with me, I’ve never thought it was going to happen again – even though it happens every time!
I think it’s because I treat every relationship as a chance for me to improve something about myself. After all, if I’m improved, I will attract less dysfunctional people. And that’s proven true over and over again.
Sometimes we carry with us our own dysfunction and attract those that will reveal that in us and we have to work on it in ourselves. This guy made false promises to you, but it’s just that one guy. There are a lot of “bad” men, but when you heal you won’t be attracting those types of people anymore.
Thank you again for sharing all of this. It’s powerful. I wish you the best of everything!
“Whether you decide to stick it out with your partner and heal as a couple or move apart and heal separately, healing has to take place. And it doesn’t matter if you are the unbeknownst victim of a cheating partner or the cheating person yourself, you likely have to heal something inside you after an event like this.”
I have a serious question for you since I’m in a situation where my wife is asking for time to heal. She was asking for time this time a year ago while in a sexual relationship with a male co worker. A year later she’s in a relationship with a female in our home, again asking for time to heal. Is is possible to be genuinely interested in one relationship or healing from one, while in another relationship that is sexual?
Hey Neil, thanks for the question. Does your wife need time to heal from your cheating? Is that why she is developing relationships outside your marriage?
Yes, she may need healing time AND she may want to even the score by also seeing people outside your marriage as well.
I might need more info from you. If you cheated, did you apologize? Did you mean the apology if and when you did? Did you cheat more than once? Will you ever do it again? Where are you with that today? Do you feel guilty about it every day?
Also, how do you feel about your wife being in a relationship now, inside your home? Does it bother you or was this the arrangement you agreed to?
Healing doesn’t usually involve doing the very thing you wish your spouse didn’t do. That sounds to me more like revenge which could certainly lead to more hurt. Unless you are okay with her taking revenge or having an affair, then that is your personal choice. If you are not okay with it, then it’s time to take a stand and be up front with her.
Saying something like, “This is not acceptable. We are married and I want to be with you and I want you to be with me alone” might lead her to respond with, “You cheated on me so I get to cheat on you!” And she may use that response for an indefinite period of time.
If that’s the case, how long will you be okay with her making you feel guilty for something you’ve apologized for? That’s if you absolutely meant your apology and will never cheat again. I’m not saying she should get over it. In fact, if she’s still hurt by your infidelity (again, I’m assuming you cheated), then she may never get over it. And she has a right to feel that way.
But if her choice is to make you feel bad and you are allowing it, then that is more self-punishment than anything. You can choose to be with her and be okay with her affairs, or not be okay and get out of the relationship.
She may never stop wanting to make you feel bad for what you did. There are a couple possible solutions to this:
1. She forgives you and is ready to work on the relationship
2. She won’t forgive you and you leave the relationship
I can’t see any other way for this to work out well. I’ll repeat, she does not have to forgive you, that’s her right and her choice, but if she wants to keep the marriage, she needs to spend her time healing it WITH you not without.
She also may enjoy watching you suffer – I don’t know. Betrayal is painful and once you betray someone’s trust, there may be no path back to that person ever again.
To answer your question directly, yes, it’s possible to be healing while in another relationship outside the marriage. The thing is, in my personal opinion, most marriages cannot survive that type of arrangement. Whether you’re cheating behind closed or open doors, if it’s not welcome, it’s not healthy and certainly not healing.
If I’m incorrect about you cheating, then my answer will be completely different. Thank you for sharing this.
First I apologize for not seeing this response until some 8 months later. To say things have been rough is an understatement. We lost our home and our currently spread out between three cities in 2 different states in hotels with the kids staying with her sister. To answer your question Yes I did cheat, and have apologized sincerely for it countless times. I think you may be right though. I currently don’t see much improvement. The external affair (which is being denied despite overwhelming evidence) is still ongoing although she denies it as only a friendship. Things were drastically complicated with this latest affair who is a female, who.. Became pregnant by me. This was their idea, which I agreed to since I wasn’t getting any from wife. So I agreed to a threesome which quickly became more about her friend trying to become pregnant by me. Since that time things have become worse between us as there were some unspoken rules I apparently broke about that encounter which led to even more anger from her.. This, despite the fact it was not my idea and nothing was discussed before it went down. I was awakened to both of them in towels and ready to play… Meanwhile, since that time and up until the time we became displaced, her friend sneaks in to my room wanting sex.. (They sleep together) I’ve come to the very realization you pointed out, that I am likely going to be forced to leave the entire situation alone and start over. I’m simply waiting for any possible sign or willingness of reconciliation, and if none, then I’m just waiting until they are working so that they can start to handle their own finances. I have made deadlines on when I will cut things off and then went past them. I have one deadline left that can not be passed without her showing her true intentions. Here in the next few months I am committed to a program that will require me to quit my job for 4 months. What happens during that time will reveal all I need to know to make my final decision as I won’t be of any financial help to them.
Okay, you have certainly gotten deeper into a situation that was already poisonous to you in many ways. Stay on target with your deadlines and follow through. This is not a healthy arrangement. If you want to keep your sanity, you have to remove yourself from all this drama.
I’m glad to hear you are making plans. A deadline is perfect. That means by the date you set if things haven’t changed, or they get worse, you get out because you will only continue to be strung along – whether by your own doing or theirs.
Right now, focus on what’s best for you and your kids. You are way too entangled in this triangle and, in my opinion, aren’t going to make things better by having it last longer than you need to.
Like I said, I’m glad you’re making plans. Sometimes an exit strategy takes time so that’s fine. Just stick to your deadline!
I wish you the best through this.
Paul, thank you for your article. It is incredibly insightful. I am dealing with being cheated on a second time. I’m kind of ashamed to say it to be quite honest. My husband and I have been married 17 years….together 20. We have two children age 9 and 7. He cheated in 2012. It was DEVASTATING! It involved two girls (escorts) that he had sought out. In a weird way I think I was able to handle it better because I knew it was about the sex. It was about the thrill, the chase, the excitement, etc. He was INCREDIBLY remorseful then. We went to counseling, we did everything it took and I can honestly say I thought our marriage was better after it in a way. We had new found communication skills and understanding of how horrible cheating was. Lots to say there, but to keep this short I’ll say I worked very hard in couples counseling as well as in individual counseling including EMDR to help me deal with the traumatic thoughts. Over time he worked very hard to earn my trust back and I will say he had it. I no longer read emails, texts, etc. I truly knew, or thought I knew, that the cheating had brought us both down to our knees so hard and caused so much pain that there was NO WAY it would happen again.
Well……almost 5 years later and it has happened again. We have been to a therapist, we separated for awhile because he is overridden with guilt, shame, and self-loathing. The strong, confident husband I was married to has been in shambled, engulfed with anger for himself and disgust. I have suffered from incredible anxiety, shock and depression. It has been a horrible road for us both. Am I am idiot to give a 3rd chance? He is incredibly remorseful, his self-hatred (although I know over a long amount of time is not a good place to stay in ) has shown me the depth of his remorse. I guess my question to you is, is it possible to rebuild trust AGAIN or am I an idiot? We have spent so many emotional times with one another since this. We love one another. Neither of us want divorce. He has sought out therapy on his own along with our couples therapy. He is really trying to uncover the “why” to all of this…..what drives him to seek the chase and the thrill and engage in these risk taking behaviors. My husband is 56 years old. The girl he got involved with this time was not an escort, however she is 27 years old. So, he states it was all fantasy and lies. He knew he didn’t want a life with her, he was just wanting the chase, etc. He is spending time seeking clarity as to why he does this and how to change and what to do in the future, etc. He has committed to the path “forward” and to stop lying and he says to never cheat again. How do I trust? I’m trying to move forward as well. I know that dwelling in the past, asking for all the little details, etc. does not help. I learned that the first go-around. However, I don’t want to be stupid and stick my head in the sand. If we both want the marriage do I just accept that there were lies, upon lies, up on lies…..after all that is what surrounds infidelity, and instead of wondering what else may have happened or if there were others or if there is more I don’t know, should I be looking forward only? Any advice in rebuilding trust again?
Thank you for sharing all of this Julie. How did you find out? Did he come to you and confess because he realized he made an awful mistake (again)? Or did he get caught?
My answer depends on that answer. If he was caught, then it’s not about the sex so much as it is his ability to lie to the closest person in his life, and keep that lie going. Yes, it’s also about the sex but if he is capable of lying straight to your face then you have a serious problem before any type of infidelity occurs.
If he did it then confessed, he MIGHT be dealing with an addiction, chemical imbalance, plain old bad behavior, or something else that he will need consistent therapy for. I mean, in both instances he could still have one of the above AND the ability to lie to you without issue so he may need help regardless.
My angle on this is that when the cheater is caught, they have cheated before and will cheat again. When they do it and confess a few days or weeks later because it is eating them up inside, it is slightly more forgiving. Slightly.
Of course, I have a personal view on this as well as a professional view. If my girlfriend and I whom I believe to have the best communication and honest with each other were to cheat, I would leave the relationship. If we had problems to the point she needed to cheat and she didn’t discuss those problems with me, especially since we have committed to be honest with each other no matter what, then the highest level of trust has been betrayed and it could never get to that level again. It is a personal choice I am making but I am comfortable with that choice.
You may make different choices than me. What I get from your message is that this person loves you and feels guilty AND has no problem making extra effort to cheat on you. It wasn’t even by chance or opportunity like with a co-worker or someone he is around often (Though, I don’t know about the 27 year old). The fact that he had to consciously make the extra effort to set up dates and times with people to be with tells me that he is not simply falling under someone’s spell because of proximity, he is putting in the time, energy and apparently money to arrange liaisons with strangers.
Someone who loves you and feels terrible about cheating on you doesn’t mean they won’t do it again. He can feel awful about cheating and still cheat! The guilt is not enough to stop him from doing it again. If guilt isn’t enough, and his love for you isn’t enough, and “fantasy and lies” overrules all of that, then it is likely he will do it again.
I can’t tell you 100% if that’s true or not. Maybe he DOES have a problem, but are you resilient enough to have your heart broken more times just to help him heal?
I always go in the direction of heal thyself first. If being with him makes you feel good, loved, nurtured and supported, then by all means stick with him and take another chance. But if being with him makes you sick and every time he gets off a phone call you’re wondering who he talked to, or every time he glances at a woman on the street you’re going to be triggered with anger and hurt, then it may be time to separate and start healing yourself.
Separation could lead to divorce but it could also lead to a healing like nothing else can, for both of you. And there’s no law that I know of that says after you separate or divorce that you can never be together again either.
Should you stay or should you go is a very personal decision so I cannot give you a direct answer. What are your values in a relationship? Do you allow lying and cheating? If not, what lengths are you willing to go to uphold your relationship values?
If you stay, you will need continuous counseling as a couple, and continuous monitoring of him. He will need to reveal all – everyone he talks to, everywhere he is, all the time. He will lose freedoms he used to have because you will need constant reassurance. But if he’s willing to lose those freedoms to save the marriage and keep you in his life, then maybe there’s a chance.
I wish you the best through this. Please also consider that you may be developing an “abused mind” where your level of tolerance for bad behavior rises every time he does bad behavior. After a certain point, a person can take advantage of that knowing that they’ve gotten away with things before and it will get easier to get away with them again because there’s no accountability for their actions.
I know some of my commentary is doom and gloom, but serious considerations need to be made with your next step.
I wish you the best. Thank you again for sharing all of this.
Julie, I am so sorry that you have to go through this again…. Have you had your husband talk to a CSAT therapist (Certified Sex Addiction therapist) to determine if he has a sex addiction? He might need to get into a 12 step program to help him stay sexually sober. A CSAT therapist will also insist he do a FULL Disclosure to you of all of his sexual acting out (including porn). There is probably some stuff he is not telling you becasue he thinks he is protecting you. But he is only protecting himself. And I am a firm believer that lying by omission is still lying. He cannot begin to heal until he is brutally honest to another human being the nature of his wrongs. That is what the SAA and SA 12 step groups are for. What you need most right now is to hear honesty (real honesty even if it hurts) so you can make the decision if you are willing to stay. This is a decision only you can make and only if you have all the facts.
I do know your pain, I lived it too. You might consider reaching out to a COSA or S-Anon meeting in your area for partners of sex addicts. These are people whose stories are suprisingly similar to your own and they can help you out of your isolation and into healing again. Some have chosen to stay in their marriages and some have chosen to leave their partner.
Please take care of yourself. I wish I could reach out and give you a hug right now. Just know you are not alone.
Thank you for the article, the bit about going into the painful bits was helpful. I discovered my husband was cheating and April and I just can’t seem to get over it. He’s left and he is completely unremorseful, in fact he blames me for his cheating. The cheating started basically right after we got married and included secret business trips and him slandering me to this woman him trying to impregnate me and this woman at the same time excetera excetera. He blames me for his cheating even though I did everything to be a good wife, and we had lots of sex. I just couldn’t be good enough for him no matter what I do. I just hurts so much I can’t stop hurting. My heart literally physically hurts all the time twenty-four hours a day I feel this squeezing feeling in my heart. I’m in so much pain I think I might just die. Not like I’ll commit suicide, I just feel like I can’t do it anymore I feel like my body is going to just collapse. My friends have told me I don’t look good I look sick I look drained. It’s been 4 months and everybody thinks I should be over it but I’m not. I’ve been losing incredible amounts of weight to the point where I look emaciated. I’m not doing a good job at my work and probably about to get fired. I can’t sleep anymore I hardly sleep at all. I’m not functioning I’m in so much pain I’m in so much pain. I don’t know how to go on with my life. I can’t afford any kind of help I don’t have insurance I can’t afford a therapist. I think I’m going to die I’m in so much pain and it’s not going away
Thank you for sharing this Audrey. Blaming you takes the pain of responsibility off of him. It’s a sick and pathetic move on the manipulator’s part, but they take advantage of others so that they can get what they want without the consequences.
You could have done nothing more to prevent him from being the person he revealed himself to be. You could be a wealthy supermodel that satisfied him in every single way and he still would have cheated. This is a no win situation that leaves you chewed up and spit out. His behavior is simply not nice. He is not a nice person though he may have appeared to be that way for whatever reason.
The collapse you talk about is a great give up point. It’s the full acceptance that it will never get better and it’s the worst possible feeling in the world. It’s time to give in and just accept that this is what happened and is affecting you and there’s absolutely nothing you can do about it. It’s unavoidable and you have to deal with the pain.
The idea is to experience full bottom – where it’s as bad as it’s going to get so that you can finally start to heal. Holding on to what was or what could have been is what keeps us from healing.
I’m not saying it’s easy at all. As I said in the beginning of the article, it can truly feel like you’ve lost a child. This is a huge piece of your heart. And now that part of you feels empty.
You’ve lost a piece of your identity. Who are you without him? I’m sure that’s a big question in your mind too. I believe in accepting that you have a piece of you missing. I believe that when you accept this, you can finally take steps to start filling in that empty space with something good to rebuild who you are.
This is when you start redefining you and rebuilding your identity. Our partners in life help to define us, or at least it can feel that way, which is why we feel lost when they are not here. So when they leave or betray, we have to put something else in that space they left behind.
I know this is hard and awful but you are going to get through this. A real death can take up to a year to fully get over so give yourself space to grieve and feel crazy if you have to. The point is to also be easy on yourself while you do it.
Thank you again for sharing this. I appreciate you!
How are you two years (or more) later? That man sounds like a malignant narcissist.
Your article was very informative. My husband had an affair for a little over a year. Worst year of my life and the pain is devastating as you described. My husband moved out and came back home over the summer. We started counseling and he stared meeting with one of our pastors for an 8 week program to help him build a relationship with God. All this happening, I thought we were on the right track. I have learned that he has to heal and can’t change unless he wants to change. The one thing I haven’t mentioned is the affair he had is with a co-worker. They don’t work in the same department but she works at the same place. It KILLS me that he has to keep working there, but he said he is going to look for another job. Well a week ago, my instincts went off and come to find out he opened that door of communication to her. I have been noticing a slight change more of him being distant with me these past 3 weeks. He appears to be disgusted and mad at himself that he opened that door. he said he saw her int he hallway and they would just have small talk. No meetings after work or before. He said he felt bad for all the pain he put her through. My husband is TOO nice and people take advantage of this niceness, but she is no victim. me and the kids are. She knew he was married but chose to go along with it and she was married in the beginning as well but divorced her 3rd spouse. He said he wants to find a new job but the job he is at is his DREAM job. The lies hurt worst then the conversations but the face he can’t fight for me or our marriage hurts and it makes me feel like I am not worthy. My confidence and self-esteem is so shot. I just don’t understand how he could fall into this temptation again. Sad thing, she doesn’t call or reach out, he is the one that does the reaching out. We are best friends and I love this man and he is worth fighting for b/c this isn’t him . His family is devastated and friends too. I have a great support system but now I am getting tired or fighting when it isn’t my battle to fight. Any advice or help or real talk…you can give right now will be greatly appreciated. I just feel if he wants this marriage to work he knows what to do to make it work but I don’t think he cares as much about it like I do. We were doing so much better before those lines were opened back up. Or at least that is what i thought.
Thank you for sharing this. You want the truth? A man who really regrets cheating and wishes to never do it again will move mountains to show that he wants nothing to do with the person he cheated with. If he wants to show his wife that he is truly sorry for what he did and it was a stupid mistake, he’s going to quit his “dream” job and make sure he doesn’t put himself in a position that is all a threat to his wife or his marriage.
Best friends don’t always make loyal spouses unfortunately. My girlfriend’s best friend was her husband before they got married. After finding out about all the affairs and suffering all the emotional abuse, she realized that a best friend and a loyal husband are two completely different things to some people.
You’re right, she is not the victim, you and the kids are.
He didn’t fall into the temptation again, he just doesn’t want to be away from it. It never really stopped being a temptation. Words are worth nothing, action proves intention. Don’t let words convince you of changes, let actions and behavior help you define what’s going on.
Some men that want to cheat also want to save their marriage. He may actually want to save the marriage AND continue seeing other people. My girlfriend’s ex wanted to save their marriage even though he was cheating from the very beginning. He really believed it was okay to be married and have secret affairs. As long as his wife didn’t know, everyone would be happy.
I don’t mean to be so blunt, but I need to make sure you know that a man who opens up communication with the one person that you need him to stay away from has absolutely no intention of staying loyal to you. He may say nothing will happen but his actions prove otherwise.
A truly apologetic cheater goes into guilt mode and does absolutely everything their partner asks them to. He hands over his phone, his mail, and anything else she asks for. He goes to work and comes straight home and lets her hear his phone calls. He makes sure that his entire life is exposed to her so that she can start rebuilding trust.
Some day in the future, trust is improved and the victim can choose to give him some space again. This could take months or even years. It’s different for different people and depending on the circumstances. If the cheater admitted it without being coaxed, then there’s more a chance for trust to rebuild. If they hid it and denied it, that usually spells trouble because it shows how capable they are of lying straight to your face without an ounce of compassion or sorrow for you
What he seems to be doing to you is creating an abused mind. The abused mind is one that learns to accept more and more bad behavior. The behavior get worse as time goes on but the victim’s mind has become so tolerant of it that s/he falls into a deeper level of acceptance. Soon, the cheater can cheat all the time and the victim feels so powerless because s/he allowed behavior to get worse and chose to stay in the relationship.
Don’t let bad behavior continue. If it is against the rules that he talks to that woman, then he needs to stop – period. If he doesn’t stop, then you need to provide accountability. No accountability = no consequences = more tolerance of bad behavior on your part.
If God wasn’t able to keep him loyal and dedicated to you, you nor anyone else will be able to do it either. Unless he suddenly quits his job and starts honoring your wishes instead of testing your boundaries, don’t expect his behavior to get any better. Sorry I cannot give you any better perspective. I wish nothing but the best for you.
Thank you. I needed to hear someone telling me the truth. I have been fighting so hard within this marriage that now realizing he needs to be fighting. He always seems to be angry with me lately. Really hurts and I get no security or safety from him. He is no longer the man I once knew and his mom is so heartbroken. Denial has been keeping me from seeing the truth but my intuition always shows me the truth. I just wish he had that fight in him to fight for me. I have bent over backwards for this man and I know if i left, in would be able today I have tried everything. The one month she wasn’t in our marriage was perfect but I just can’t compete with the devil himself. Crazy, my husband still wants to do church and meet the pastor on Tuesdays but he truly hasnr repented and is just trying to show face to keep up with the charade. He will miss out on a wonderful woman bc i am worth every fight. Thank you
You are a wonderful woman to have been so forgiving and generous. Now it’s time to put all the generosity into you and show compassion for yourself like never before.
I feel the need to add a footnote to this thread. I’d be willing to bet that 70% of people who have been cheated on had proof or at least an inkling about what was happening.
Some of those people will question the cheaters and should be told the truth – especially if they want their relationship to move forward. The ones who know and choose not to bring it up and those who don’t know, being told the truth only serves an easing of the conscience of the guilty party. The ones who know want to move past it, but don’t need the specifics. The ones who don’t know can only be hurt by the knowledge.
It seems that guilt and forgiveness may have the same timelines. Discretion is the better part of valor.
It is my opinion that those being cheated on have to be resilient enough to hear the truth, or choose to live in a blissful denial, accepting that they are with someone who has no problem deceiving and lying to them. Let alone the possible STDs that could be brought into the relationship.
It’s true, finding out your partner is cheating may ruin the “perfect” relationship and devastate you. However, I wonder how many people would say, “I’d rather not know and continue enjoying my relationship as it is”?
I’ve had clients tell me that everything was perfect up to the point they found out. Then their partner became mean and distant. Knowing what they know today, they’d still want to know the truth regardless of the pain. You can do something with truth. It’s tangible. You can’t do anything with lies and deceit. Those are meant to dupe you into a false sense of security. That is an unstable foundation that will eventually crumble.
Many relationships can survive and thrive after infidelity. I’m willing to bet most of them cannot survive with a foundation of deception.
bear with me since my kyboard isnt working. the scenario i meant to represent was a ome time infidelity.
Thank you so much for this article! I have been reading many different articles about cheating and this one really speaks the absolute truth and has already helped me deal with all the pain I’m going through. I just found the other day that my boyfriend of nearly two years has been seeing another woman for over 8 months. I actually found out through the other woman; she messaged me on Facebook and said that she was his girlfriend and that he told her that I was his ex. I sat down and talked with him about it and he confessed to everything and seemed remorseful. He said that he hadn’t felt the spark anymore and he didn’t know how to end it.
The worst part is that he just moved in with me in September while he was seeing her. He also told me that he was going to try to make it work with her. Needless to say, I was shocked because we had, at least what I thought, a great relationship. Now that I look back on it, I can see the warning signs: always on his phone, very evasive, etc. But I brushed it off because I trusted him. It’s all so shocking too because he came off as this genuinely nice guy. All my friends and family loved him. Even when I told my friends that I had received a message from the other woman, they tried to reassure me that she was the crazy one and that he would never do anything like that.
Even though it’s only been a few days since it’s happened, I’m trying to be the bigger person. I don’t want him to feel worse about himself than he already does. Although I won’t get back together with him, I don’t want this low point in his life to define him for the rest of his life, and I don’t want to be that person that burns all his belongings and yells at him. I do know that I am not to blame. I am who I am and I love that person. Even though I am and will continue to stay positive about this, it’s not to say that it doesn’t hurt. Good grief, it hurts so much. It feels a knife has gone through my heart and it is being twisted. Hopefully I’m taking the necessary steps in order to recover from all this. Thank you again for the very insightful article!
-Liz
Thank you for sharing this Liz. I hope you are in a better place today. I’m so glad you shared this for others who might be going through your situation. Thank you for your kind words.
My name is Aida and i just want to say that iam having a very difficult time with myself not knowing how it is im suppose to feel about my ex husband who i found out had betrayed me. He has a tendency to always and i do mean ALWAYS talk himself out of everything and anything he does.He never admits he does anything wrong and does not like saying he is sorry about anything. He has hurt me beyond hurt.I loved this man too much . He walked out on me and told me i wasnt much of a wife and that he didnt love it was only infatuation . I was crushed i couldnt believe what he was saying to me. I tried to get him to come back so we could work it out but he refused and said he couldnt live with me and couldnt live without me i didnt want to give up on my marriage and then said he had nothing to offer me, i told him i was not asking him to offer me anything it was him that i wanted i was not interested in anything else. But he just would not reconsider so he said we could just date and see if we could work on getting back together i told him i did not want to date i wanted to stay married but he did not agree so i settled for what he wanted i figured we would work it out and get back together. Its been 17 yrs now and he has put me thru so much i dont know where to start.He had went back to his mothers house when he abandoned me , his father was still alive 4yrs later his father died and he used his mother as an excuse for why we could get back together saying he did not want to leave his mother although his mother had 5 other family members living there with her as well .He had bought himself a trailor so he could live in it in the back of the house. He wanted his privacy.During the first 13 yrs. We were separated i would see him once a month he was busy making new friends which became important to him especially the females he was protective of them and would not let me meet them if i happened to come by he would be leaving with them before i could get a chance to see them. Or at times he would be walking with one and he see me and he would turn around and whisper something to them and they take off running.he would always come up with she was looking for his nephew which i knew he was lying another time i came a different one coming out the trailor with him he tells me she had a headache and he was getting her a tylenol a different one calls him at 3:40am and does not want to answer the phone because im right there beside him the name of the girl came up on the screen kerri he waited till it stop ringing for him to say they hung up.I told him the name came up you can call back and he said you know i dont know how to do that. I thought nothing of it . In the morning I asked him to let me use his phone so i could show him something.And i seen his contacts and found that phone number he had her on speed dial and i noticed they had been texting back and forth so i pointed that out to him and he got all mad at me for asking him who this woman was and why was she calling him at this hour. He got mad for me looking in his phone and i reminded him that he allowed me to look when i told him i wanted to show him who it eas that had called him so late.He was loudly telling me that it was a friend of his mother , like i daid earlier see hoe he reacts when i catch him doing things he tries to turn things around on me so it could be my fault.I tell him he is a dirty fighter and he gets mad we stop talking for months and its always me who gives in all the time and im tired of it this time i decided to break things off for the last time cause i happened to run across a message he sent to domeone near by to meet him for sex because he was desparate mind you im staying there with him at his moms waiting for him to come to bed. I said nothing to him about it up until 2 months later when i had left and wasnt talking to him. He had stood me up and never called to apologize or nothing .Its been 4 months and not so much as a call to admit or deny it. Im hurt. Im angry. So i text him for some kind of closure and he texted back saying he needs some time to take care of some things and wants to spend time with his kids (grown up with family of their own) he went to stay at his daughters house. Anyway then he continues the text with he feels that his life with me is not over but if i feel the need to move on without him then the closure i seek is mine
How many spouses suspect this and that but it’s nothing. You don’t even mention false positives or how the wreak havoc on what should be a good marriage. My wife has alternately accused me of cheating for years, but it’s never happened. Nothing even close. It’s just insecurity and a couple times catching me in “white lies” that I wish I had never done. The biggest ironically was to make her proud that I was going to church when I wasn’t feeling up for it and just sat in my car. Anyway, the point is I assume this isn’t rare–we have a good marriage and we love each other and people suspect things all the time. And they aren’t true. Nonsense. Evidence is evidence and must be weighed accordingly, but suspicion is nothing. And women work each other up talking about this stuff.
Thank you for sharing this perspective. I am sure there are many people in relationships that have their suspicions because of the exact reasons you stated. White lies are tiny betrayals of trust and can cause someone to wonder “if s/he has no problem lying to me about that, what’s to stop them from lying to me about anything else?”
It’s not about cheating, it’s about betrayal of trust. Once you start to chip away at the trust in the relationship, you are going to raise red flags that will absolutely make your partner suspicious.
When you start raising tiny red flags, the assumptions that arise from it have to be expected. After all, the scenario you describe can be what happens in an actual cheating situation. One partner says they are going to church but instead goes to their lover’s house or something.
The damage in the relationship isn’t when you are caught in a white lie necessarily, it’s the invalidation that can often occur. For example, if she caught you in a lie and you said something like, “What’s the big deal? It’s not like I cheated or anything!” then she may not feel like you care about lying to her.
Evidence is useful when cheating is suspected, but before it ever gets that far, before any white lie, there has to be a level of communication where white lies aren’t even necessary. One can get used to telling these types of lies. If that’s what happened here, it’s quite possible your wife felt as if you didn’t care about her enough to be honest with her.
If the situation were reversed, would you be okay with it? If she said she was going to a social gathering with friends every Tuesday night, then one night you decided to surprise her there, but found out she hadn’t been going there at all, would you be at all suspicious? Even if she said she just sat in her car every week?
Not trying to paint you into a corner, just giving you a perspective that may not have come up for you.
Thank you again for sharing this.
I’m not saying that you are wrong, but the point I was trying to make is that you seem to be suggesting to women (or men) that they trust their suspicions. And without some kind of study as to how many false positives suspicious spouses get it’s not good advice (and this is my opinion, of course). We only hear the stories of — “I suspected he was cheating on me and then found out I was right! I should have followed my instincts!” You don’t hear the stories–“I suspected he was cheating on me and I was totally wrong because he’s a good husband!” So this is merely confirmation bias.
As to my incident–of course I’d be suspicious. But I’d be wrong. That was my point. I’m not upset at her for suspecting and I wish I had never done it. And without any other evidence I’d let it go with time (hopefully she has). But what was particularly dumb for me was that she always had that insecurity and it just worsened it for a time. It’ll never go away. And to some extent it’s flattering, if sometimes more destructive than annoying. But I know she’s not alone. I see things like this everywhere encouraging women to just trust their suspicious instincts and its destructive to good relationships.
And thanks for writing back there.
Great conversation! Your perspective is absolutely welcome. Yes, you are correct, I am suggesting that you trust your intuition and follow it through until you come to a place of closure. That closure could be that you find nothing (no evidence as you say) or you find something (evidence!).
I didn’t mean to imply that you should automatically accuse your partner without having some sort of open communication first. There’s a big difference between asking, “You weren’t at church? Are you cheating on me?” and “You weren’t at church and you felt the need to lie to me? Why?”
One leads to a more productive conversation. If you are immediately put on the defense, then you might be cornered into what is called a double bind: No matter how you answer, you are still a suspect. In other words, a cheater would say,
“What? I’m not cheating! I can’t believe you would say that!”
Yet, one who hasn’t cheated would say,
“What? I’m not cheating! I can’t believe you would say that!”
Hence the double bind scenario: Damned if you are cheating, damned if you aren’t.
If the conversation starts off by putting the partner in that defensive place, it will likely go nowhere. And if the partner isn’t cheating, it has the potential to damage the relationship (as you are stating).
The problem comes in there IS a cheating partner, and you have no evidence of the cheating because they are so darn good at hiding it.
When you have these doubts and suspicions start to pop into your mind, what do you do with them? Should you ignore them? When you try to look for evidence but your partner covers his/her tracks so well that you can’t find any, what then?
When you suspect something is off but can’t really prove anything, it’s a tougher place to be. You might not see evidence, but you might wonder why s/he is treating you so nicely all of the sudden, or why s/he getting you flowers when they never did that before.
These could be very innocent and kind gestures… or not. When different behaviors appear that weren’t there before, that’s reason enough to talk about it. Again, not putting them on the defense, but just asking questions that lead to a productive conversation.
The point you make that there are only stories about one side of the equation is not entirely correct. Those stories are more sensationalized, yes, but there are plenty of examples where people have gotten accused that were innocent (see those search results here: https://goo.gl/rBPKDV).
When I imagine how I’d respond if my girlfriend came up to me and accused me of cheating, I think the first thing out of my mouth would be laughter because it would be so absurd to me. Then when I saw how serious she was, I would say, “What in the world would make you think I was cheating on you?”
At that point, she may persist and say she knows something’s up. If she continued to persist, I’d tell her, “Look, I’m not cheating. Here’s my phone. Here are my emails, check them out. Now, let’s go ask everyone I know if I’m cheating on you.”
My response might seem a little extreme – to reveal all right away – but that’s because I know I’m right. I’d give her access to everything she needed until she was absolutely sure she was wrong.
I might even revel a little bit watching her come to the realization that she was completely wrong about me. In fact, she may feel so bad for accusing me that she might even treat me like a king afterward. 😉
Of course, I am an open book to my girlfriend. I have absolutely nothing to hide. If she suspected anything, I’d hand her the keys to my internet browser history, facebook messages, phone texts, etc. I’d have no problem doing that.
I can understand how one who is accused might become angry at their partner for being accused, but how was the relationship up to that point? Was it an open book or was there a dire need for privacy which caused the partner to wonder what was up?
I know this isn’t a cut and dry topic. It is very complex with multiple perspectives. And many people define cheating differently. So the best course of action is to continue having conversations like this to keep in mind every angle and every possible scenario.
Thank you again for your comments. Your perspective is enlightening and is definitely food for though.
He probably felt he had to escape and that was what that was. Online is different for men than women, though I understand your feelings as well. Being in the open is good. I hope you can heal. He needs other escapes aside from online relationships, though. Male friendship (elusive), church, academic pursuit, hobbies…
Thanks for the great content.
This helped me realize my own emotions after my wife left me in shock by cheating on me…
and worst than all, she didn’t feel any shame or regret.
Thank you for your comment Alan. I hope you are getting into a better space as time goes on.
I hope so. I’m broken at the moment…
FWIW, she has Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD)…
I try to help myself feel a bit better by repeating to myself:… She’s ill, it’s her illness
To whoever reads this: BEWARE! don’t trust anyone who shows traits of BPD… They eventually cheat on top of all other issues they have
Just want to say this is the absolute BEST article I’ve read on infidelity, and I’ve read a lot. You nailed every point, spot on, and I appreciate the validation I feel from your words.
Here’s my question for you: my husband, no doubt, is regretful, remorseful, repentant, etc. for his stupid affair. I don’t doubt that and I don’t think he will ever cheat again. I actually never felt the need to check his phone or check up on him at any point, even in the immediate aftermath of discovery. I trust he will never do it again. What I struggle with is whether he told me the whole truth about his affair. The lies he told to cover it once I grew suspicious were so astounding, and he only fessed up to what I could finally prove. You speak about trusting your intuition … I couldn’t agree more. My intuition tells me he did not the disclose everything, but … does it matter? He is a changed man, the husband he should have been for the past 20+ years. Should I let it go?
Hi Anne Marie, thank you for sharing this. I appreciate your words.
I’m so sorry you had to deal with this, but love to hear that you are now on the other side of it but with what I would call some residual. That residual is non-closure. It’s not knowing if you know the whole truth.
I think good questions to ask yourself are:
At what point will I be completely satisfied with his telling of the story?
What specifically do I need to hear to feel better about this?
What do I believe he is hiding?
What don’t I want him to reveal to me because it might be too much for me to handle?
And finally, if you haven’t already answered this, “What needs to happen in order for me to let this go and move on?”
Knowing the answer to that final question is going to help you know when you reach closure. If you don’t even know what qualifies as closure then it’s difficult to know when you’ve reached it, if that makes sense.
After you’ve reflected on those questions, if your husband is in remorse and regret like you say, then he should be okay with you bringing this subject up again. But say something like this:
“I know you said you told me everything about the affair, but I don’t believe you did. I don’t know if you want to spare my feelings or are just too ashamed or if it’s something else, but know that I know there is more that you’re not telling me. I’m not saying this to make you feel bad all over again, I’m saying because I know myself well enough to know what’s true and what’s not. And I know that you gave me most of the truth but not all of it. Because of this, I will never feel whole or completely 100% trusting in you. I might be 99% there, but I don’t want to stay at 99%. If you ever feel like you can be 100% honest with me and tell me what you haven’t told me yet, I’ll listen. I just want closure and because I know there’s more to this, I can’t get it. I just want you to be honest no matter what. Even if you think I’ll be hurt. This is important to both of us.”
Or something along those lines. I’m way too verbose there, but the idea is to tell him what you know to be true, in your heart and in your intuition, and because you know there’s more, you won’t find closure until you get that from him.
In my opinion, the more secure you are in knowing there’s more and the more you convey that security, the more likely it will land and he will come forward.
There are three possible outcomes:
1. He vehemently denies it and swears up and down and is visibly sad or feeling awful for ever putting you through this
2. He vehemently denies it and gets angry at you for pushing him so far (anger is a red flag, often used to divert your attention to keep the person out of the spotlight)
3. He will fess up and tell you something he knows will hurt you.
You might even want to throw out some bait and see if it helps. In other words, “What is it? Is it the fact you saw more than one person? Did you get someone pregnant? Did you have sex in our bedroom?” etc. In other words, throw things out there you KNOW will hurt you, but do so in a way that shows him you are open to discussing it. That way he has an opening.
I hope this helps. I gave you enough to chew on and think about. I wish you both much strength and healing through this. You are probably right and you can probably let this go and move forward with a great relationship, but if you can’t get it out of your mind, then you may have to take some bolder steps like I mention above so you’ll get a response that qualifies as closure to you.
And if the affair happened not too long ago, remember your emotional armor and radar may be on full force right now. You do have to give yourself time to heal through this and so that you will only show up 100% when you’re good and ready to.
Thanks for your comment and question! Good luck with this.
Wow, I didn’t expect such a quick response, especially since your post is a few years old. Thank you for replying.
Your advice is excellent and much appreciated.
I’ve said those things to him. Several times. In detail. And each time he has taken option #1 of your possible outcomes. And no matter how I’ve approached the subject, I truly believe what lies beneath will go to the grave with him. It’s a jagged little pill I’ve had stuck in my throat for quite some time, one year and four months since I found out about his affair. I’m trying to swallow it but it keeps coming back up, and I don’t want to beat a dead horse anymore. Though it took a little time for him to demonstrate true remorse, he has done everything right to make amends and atone for his behavior. Yet, I’m convinced there’s more to his story, and at this point, I struggle with if it even matters. Though it doesn’t hurt like it did in those first few months, I still feel the need to know every detail so I can process it all and move past it. His initial lies to cover his affair were so brutal and traumatizing that I often feel a war has waged between my intuition and paranoia.
Your words “emotional murder” literally stopped me dead in my tracks as I read your article. I started an Instagram account a little over a year ago just to vent my feelings, and I often used this exact phrase to describe the pain of his betrayal; it was as though he amputated my trusting soul, my free spirit, my peaceful mind. That said, the growth we’ve had, both individually and as a couple, has been nothing short of a miracle. Our new marriage is thriving, except for that occasional little ping of what may lie beneath. I want to let go of that need to know. I want to be free.
Six years ago, my husband had an affair, maybe right before and for many months after we were married. It was with a younger beautiful coworker
My radar went off immediately and I brought up texts that were innappropriate and how awful and disrespectful it was to me. I was brushed off many times and told that was how he spoke to all his guy friends. There was a mountain of circumstantial evidence, and our relationship continued to get worse and worse, with the all the obvious signs of cheating. Four months after our marriage he was screaming for a divorce and vowing to cheat on me, and that I disgusted him. We barely worked through that, but we did at my insistence because I loved him with all my heart. He immediately said he didn’t really mean those cruel words, but when people tell you who they are and what they will do, you should listen. He promised up and down that he had never been unfaithful despite those words. We stumbled on until 9 months into our marriage I found a racy boudoir photo of the coworker in his onedrive in a folder labeled nsfw. She had been fired a few months prior and was no longer his coworker. It turns out that her longterm boyfriend and father of her daughter had been suspicious too, he had found emails through their work accounts with my husband saying how he wanted to do dirty things to her under her desk. About 15 emails like that. That he started popping in to see her at lunch and that her and my husband had always went out alone for lunch. I talked to her boyfriend a year after I found the photo. My husband came up with a bunch of excuses that never made a lick of sense and demanded I trust him that they never were physically intimate. I couldn’t, and over the years I kept trying to find the truth. I found that he had budgeted to leave me, and his budget included a second income which definitely wasn’t mine. I found that her boyfriend said that they were very distant at that time the affair would have happened, yet she was planning for a baby on her pinterest. The emails, lunches, texts, phone calls, late work nights. It’s pretty much guaranteed to have happened. It still rips me apart, I get triggered. He denies the truth and I cannot move on from it. He gets angry with me, when all I want is to heal. I forgave a long time ago, but I cannot forget because he won’t release me and trust me with the truth. He is now virtually a model husband. But when I’m triggered I cannot help but tear myself to shreds. I want to move on from this pain and at this point, this many years later I’m afraid that I will always feel like my best wasnt good enough and he stayed with me out of pity. That one day when our son is grown he will leave and be with a person he truly wants. Deep down I feel that he loves me, but isn’t in love with me, and it’s always been that way.
I guess this latest trigger was that he didn’t care to not be selfish in the bedroom for a month, and didn’t notice he was being selfish (hard to miss when your wife is putting out 2 times a day and other selfless perks), and then he still turned to porn even though I was taking care of his needs. It brought up my feelings of inadequacy and lack of worth, his body didn’t need it, and I can never look like a woman in those videos again.
A few days ago I asked why he loved me, his answer was ‘I gave him stability, I stand by him, I dont judge him, I help him be a better person, I support him, and many other things’
None of that sounds like passionate love (sounds more like he loves what I do for him, and not who I am) and it was like everything I ever feared was confirmed. My wondering why he cheated, though he denys it, was confirmed. I wondered always what is wrong with me. I’m attractive, I’m slender, I cook everything and bake everything and keep the home, in the bedroom I’m insatiable and open, but it might never be enough.
I just want the pain to stop, part of me always felt that healing would begin with the truth from him. I think he would rather me sink into the worst most harmful depression then ever tell me what happened and why.
Thank you so much for sharing all of this Ann.
Your body has nothing to do with why he cheated. Models with “perfect” bodies get cheated on too, so I hope you can stop looking at that as a possible reason because it’s not.
I’m sorry you are dealing with this. Know that the very first thing that has to happen is you have to realize that you are worthy and loveable with or without anyone in your life. People who lie and cheat cannot be trusted to be your source of worth and importance. They are too busy thinking about what they want for themselves.
If he has changed but you haven’t healed, you need to work on that and focus on your healing. Stop focusing on pleasing him because that is not where your worth is. Your worth is inside and trying to find it through the eyes and words of a man who betray you several times and say awful things to you is like trusting a bank robber with your wallet. You cannot put your faith in someone who hasn’t shown the ability to be honest and faithful.
Whether you are in a relationship or not is not how you define how loveable and worthy you are. That comes from a deeper place. You have to know and accept that you are a damn good catch (after all, who would endure all the stuff you did for so long!). Once you accept that, you must create a boundary that protects you from people that don’t have your best interest in mind. If he looks at you wrong and makes you feel less than you are actually worth, you need to not accept that behavior. This is how self-worth is built: Standing up for yourself and not allowing others to mistreat you.
You don’t deserve the pain he’s put you through, but you have to make sure you believe that 100%. There is nothing you did wrong. He did wrong. He betrayed you. He broke the relationship contract. The worthy person honors their partner. The loving person tries to make things work.
The selfish person does whatever he or she wants regardless of how their partner feels. Just remember selfish people are not a good source to evaluate your own worth. They are only out to get whatever they want however they want.
Make sure you know your boundaries and what you want in a relationship. You may never get what you want from him so it’s important to come to terms with that. You may or may not want to stay with someone if you can’t love or trust them.
Please look for other episodes I’ve done on self-worth and self-esteem, and also on cheating and infidelity (use the search bar on this page). And of course therapy will help you rediscover what an amazing person you are. You are, of course, but you need to believe it too.
I wish you much strength and healing through this. Thank you again for sharing.
Thank you so much. I dont know you but I love you for this. Taking your time to put your thoughts into words, i cant even express it, the feelings of my appreciation. I needed to read this. Bless your heart.❤️💋
I am grateful for your words Sunny. Thank you so much.
I found out my husband was pursuing another woman on 2/14/2020. She was a business associate and most likely a sociopath. We no longer have any dealings with her but we are now getting into the holiday season where the emotional affair was quickly progressing to a physical one. The holidays are big triggers because last year she finagled her way in to our family and all our celebrations. I know the details which tells me he has been totally honest about things, but …. I know the details! Christmas cookies? Forget it. This was when she decided to actually make the physical pass at him while I was in the house baking cookies with our adult children. The local restaurant that my daughter used to work at – and is down the street from my office? Very bad experience there – where I confirmed that this was what I suspected. I feel so very sad and overwhelmed going there. He knows it is tough and is so very kind to me if we go to meet family. The flooding with these things and the upcoming Christmas holidays are a little overwhelming. It is easy to say “use these techniques to distract yourself” – I can think of other things to distract myself, but I am not doing a very good job. My stomach is still in knots – even when I am breathing. I don’t want to keep talking about it with him because I feel I am not helping myself by dwelling on it and it almost feels like I am punishing him. He is doing everything right but I still feel sad and overwhelmed.
It hasn’t even been a year, you have every right to still be triggered and upset about this. That’s why I tell couples going through this that healing can take up to a year. It can of course be longer, but one of the reasons I say it takes up to a year is because of what you said. There’s one Christmas, one Thanksgiving, one birthday etc each year so you don’t know what triggers you have to deal with until those days come and go.
You’re going through some PTSD for sure. The associations are hard and they will definitely continue UNLESS you are able to heal and move on. But how?
If I were in your shoes and these triggers were coming up, here’s what I’d do. I’d talk to my husband and tell him I want to go to that local restaurant and feel the feelings I have and be angry at him, (if anger is in there for you. Or maybe you need to feel the sadness). I’d tell him, “I need you to go through this with me. I need you to be a man and take my pain while I face this head on. You really screwed up but because I believe you regret what you did, I want you to go through this and take anything I dish out at you while we are there.”
I’d also bake those damn cookies and feel everything I feel while making them and tell him what I’m feeling as I’m making them. And he’s going to eat them dammit.
You can see where I’m going. It’s not distraction, it’s full on facing it and pushing through it. Resistance energizes and amplifies pain. By trying not to think about things and avoiding things that remind you of that time, you are actually thinking about those things more!
But going down the hard road of full exposure forces you to deal with it. The mind and body have to do something with what they are forced to deal with. They can’t ignore this stuff when you expose yourself to the associations full on, so the mind / body is forced to come to terms with the pain, the memories, the feelings around the betrayal, your insecurities of not feeling good enough (if that’s in there, and it often is) and whatever else is going on inside you.
It’s not an easy path, but it’s a path that, when faced full-on and allowing yourself to feel angry or feel hurt or whatever else you feel, it’s usually the fastest path to healing.
I know this is tough, but if your guy is truly apologetic and he is never going to do anything like this again, your relationship could get stronger than ever. But you have to believe that he really feels bad for what he did and that he knows how bad he screwed up. If he doesn’t feel bad or know he really screwed up, then you have other issues that need resolved first. Otherwise, from what you said, it sounds like he’s doing the right things so perhaps what I said above is a way through and out of this and into a new year with a new beginning.
Please know this is my opinion. If you are being guided by a therapist to work through this in another way, forget everything I said. 😉
You will get through this. It may be a tough holiday season yes, but it sounds like you have a partner that is giving you a safe space to feel what you need to feel. Take advantage of that. If you have more pain inside you, access it and let him know. A good guy who screwed up is going to understand where you need to be and is going to let you be there for as long as you need to be. And as long as you’re moving along a healing path, you won’t be there as long as you may think.
I wish you much strength through this.
I’m in the shoes of the one who was cheated on and I am having major trigger issues. I can’t even watch movies or TV shows where a couple has any romantic involvement as it brings up thoughts of my partner with another woman and I feel physical pain. I am thinking of seeking counseling to overcome this. Do you have any recommendations on what type of counselor to try to find or what questions I might ask a therapist to ensure they are the correct one to help me?
Thanks!
Thanks for sharing this Erica. I hope you got a chance to read my other resources on infidelity. Here’s one:
https://theoverwhelmedbrain.com/healing-the-relationship-before-and-after-the-affair/
As for the type of therapist, I think you’re going to find the nearly all of them have dealt with infidelity of some sort. Those who specialize in marriage and relationships might be a good start. I think some good questions might be:
1. Do you work with victims of infidelity?
2. Do you prefer to save the relationship or encourage a different path?
3. Is there a way out of the obsessive thinking or am I doomed?
There are probably more questions, but the reason I ask those is because you want to hear their answers.
1 is obvious. You want to know if they have experience in this area. If they do, off to number 2
2 is important because if they emphasize saving the relationship, I’d be weary. Not because I don’t believe in that, but because it means they aren’t considering all options. A good therapist will guide you down the path you want to go, not the one they want you to go. So if they answer, “It depends if you want to stay in the relationship or not” that’s a great start. If however they say, “I always encourage working on the relationship” or something similar, you’re going into a situation that has bias that may or may not work out for you. I mean, it could work out great. But if they already have bias, again, I’d be weary.
3 is even more important because your memories are your trauma regarding the infidelity and you need to know if the therapist can work with you on this. Every time you see a visual, you feel a certain way. You need to get to the point where the visual doesn’t trigger the pain. I’m willing to bet you think about the visuals often and that’s what I mean be obsessive thoughts (Have you seen my resources on obsessive thinking? Might be helpful: https://theoverwhelmedbrain.com/?s=obsess).
Ideally, a therapist is going to be able to describe what you’re going through without you saying much at all. i.e. “You’re probably feeling a lot of PTSD and every time you think about it, it’s like your heart being ripped out.”
They may not know the exact words to describe your feelings, but they’re going to be close.
Get a good feel for the therapist when you’re talking to him / her. YOU have to feel comfortable sharing with them. They need to feel welcoming and safe. If you don’t feel those two things, that’s not the right therapist for you. Most therapists are those two things, so I’m sure you’ll find someone perfect.
I wish you much strength and healing. You will get through this, just keep moving forward.
Thank you again for sharing this.
Thank you for this article. My wife had a six-month long affair after she miscarried. “Emotional murder” is accurate. I was still grieving the miscarriage and trying to be there for her, but started to sense many of the warning signs you mention. She was messed up from her childhood – the oppression of parental expectations that she had internalized and that I triggered.
It’s been 20 years since the affair ended. We’ve had a good life, but I still seek out articles like this. The pain comes back occasionally. For me, it’s a rage of helplessness. I wish I had broken the face of her co-worker who smirked at me (knowing he knew). I wish I had smashed my father-in-law’s car when he callously told a joke about infidelity (years after he came to know about the situation). The rage has affected our children, which I’ve worked on. I’m mostly better now. The one thing I fear is getting dementia like my father and losing my temper over the memories. She has an amazing capacity to forget, but I remember painful minutiae.
If you are a potential cheater reading this, do us all a favor.
Thanks so much for sharing this and for venting some of your anger that sounds like may still be plaguing your mind, at least every now and then. You have every right to be angry and want to do those things. And you should congratulate yourself and be very proud of yourself that you didn’t do those things!
The healing has to take place. I do hope you have an outlet so when the anger comes up, it has a place to go. Have you talked to your wife about the affair since it happened? Have you brought it up since then as deeply as you shared now? Deeper?
Not saying you have to, but what’s in there does need to come out otherwise you carry it with you.
If you want a perspective that may or may not help, she lost a child and that could have really messed with her head. I know, you lost a child too. It was a difficult time. The child she lost she carried and it was a different experience for her. This isn’t an excuse, nor is it a suggested way of thinking. I’m just hoping to slip a thought into your brain that can help with the healing.
Unexpressed anger (repressed anger, really) is attached to something. It could be the betrayal you felt. It could be all about her coworker that you felt you never got closure with (wanting to hurt him, and you’ve held it in all these years). Maybe you wanted to hurt her in a way – maybe not physically, but maybe emotionally like you got hurt. There are a lot of maybes.
My only suggestion is to perhaps visualize yourself doing the worst things you can to everyone that has hurt you. The visualizations can be anything you want them to be because it’s your brain. But doing this can therapeutic because you are giving your repressed emotions a way to express themselves, even if in your own mind.
When I held on to anger about my stepfather, I had to visualizing hurting him, yelling at him, and even killing him. Again, all in my mind as a way to help purge what was going on inside me.
If you have violent tendencies then of course I can’t recommend the above (seek a therapist if that’s the case, or seek a therapist anyway because that’s a great way to purge this stuff too) but if you want a chance to release this rage, you need to have an outlet. The visualization is a good start. Then, who knows, martial arts? Even expressing the worst thoughts you have to your best friend can release the pressure. Once you feel uninhibited enough to speak / express the worst of the worst will you perhaps finally be able to release all that energy.
I wish you much strength and healing through this. I know it’s tough, but keep your forward momentum or start to gain that momentum today. When you’re able to free yourself of this, the weight will be lifted and you’ll feel like a completely different person.
Thank you again for sharing.
Very good article. Finally a piece that talks about both sides of the relationship.
I just learned that my wife cheated in the very beginning of our relationship. (Before the marriage).
We met backpacking through South America, had long distance relationship for a while, and it was hard but fulfilling. We visited each other a few times (She’s from the U.S, I’m French) and everything was great if tough cause of distance.
She eventually moved to France. I was willing to move to the U.S. for her, but the easy path was for her to come, and she wanted to.
It was rough for her, she uprooted everything. Left behind friends and family, as well as her professional goals. She got a job teaching English, that wasn’t particularly good. It paid some bills.
I was living in a shared house with my best friends. Since we all knew each other and were all French, I realize now that she felt without control, because she did not speak French very well. She remembers that she kept doing faux pas (I only remember that we taught and explained some stuff to her, there was not many faux pas in my mind)
She was not really happy. She says that our relationship was good though. Which is the part I have a hard time believing.
I was working a shitty job and driving an hour and a half each way to get there. I was exhausted all the time and did not want to do much on the off days.
She went three times on trips or weekends to meet her friend Jenna. I never thought much about it. See, I think I’m a chill, flexible guy when it comes to others, but my own code of conduct is very rigid: word given is kept, always. Honor is the single most important trait I have and I’ll keep it at all costs, it’s fine that others don’t think that way, but I do. Honor is paramount.
I hadn’t realized that I expected her to think somewhat similarly and trusted her to never cheat on me. I think I never told her how much our thing meant to me, and that I was considering us to be a real couple, and that random sex would have to be discussed beforehand, not done behind backs
So I saw no issue to let her have her time away with her friends. She cheated with one of Jenna’s friend on three occasions over the course of two month give or take. Not the worst case of cheating assuredly, some folks in the comments here have it much rougher, and I really do sympathize.
She then stops seeing this guy, and Jenna. She probably already realized it was a mistake. She tells me she already regretted it deeply.
She got the advice that she should not tell me and try to forget.
She did not tell me, but she could not really forget.
Our relationship grew, we got more and more in love, and we eventually married.
Fast forward few years later, we just bought a house after confinement. She finally came clean two days ago.
Thing is, she might have had doubts at the time, and felt powerless and without control, and I believe it, I did not have doubts. My experience with relationships is limited to short ones, because I always knew very fast that it would not do.
I knew then, with her, that it was something incredible that we found. She’s my soulmate.
She’s currently extremely torn about it. She regrets it deeply, and she’s kind of an open book when she talks about stuff, she can’t really lie, it’s obvious on her face if she’s honest or not.
The reason I never knew she had done that, despite her being an open book, is because even then, I could not imagine that she was capable of it. Maybe it’s just me projecting my own code of conduct on her, because I could never do that to her. And to anyone for that matter, my own personal honor could not allow me to.
Anyway, she’s really regretting that and has said several times that she was really, truly sorry and that she wishes she had never allowed it to happen.
But it did, and as a result, I’m pretty F’d up.
But I love her, what we have is truly special so we’re going to stay together and try to heal.
She’s told me that from the time of her affair onwards her love for me only grew, that the doubts she had about me she realized were inconsciencial.
That the signature of that marriage paper meant as much to her as it did to me. That she made hers that whole ‘word given is always kept’ personal philosophy of mine.
And I do believe her. I want to forgive her. I just think it will take time.
Your article really helped me put names on what I felt, and explained what was happening to me and also to her.
I made her read it, because I think it was important that she read the ’empowerment’ bit about the cheater. She cried a lot while reading about, and when I told her what it felt like, to be in my shoes.
Anyway, thank you.
Sorry for my late reply. Thank you for sharing this and I hope you are still on this healing journey together. Many couples have healed through this kind of thing and quite often, their relationship was stronger afterward because of the affair (not that I recommend that as a way to strengthen a relationship). The reason is because the relationship has a chance to start over. You are starting over. You have a lot of good things going for you, and from this point on, there has to be transparency, not just honesty. Honesty is only good when you’re in the same room. The rest of the time, you both need integrity and transparency. That means if something comes to mind and it affects the relationship, it is put on the table to be discussed, even at the risk of the relationship. If anything is held back, it builds up.
I do wish you both the best and hope you are able to get through this. Trust needs to rebuild and hearts need to heal. Relationships can become stronger after something like this because when you’re both on board to make it work, there will be no desire to ever risk the relationship again.
Much strength and healing to both of you.
Good article, but when he talks about asking the hard questions. Not sure that will get the suspicious person anywhere in many cases. My ex was a LEO, he would sometimes at night “go out to ride around with one of the guys” because he couldn’t sleep. I never thought anything about it, as I was not the suspicious type and I trusted him. I only really remembered it after he threw the bomb of infidelity into our marriage. Or at least when I finally found out. About two years, or less I became suspicious for some other reasons and I calmly talked to him about my fears. He blew a gasket, and told me I made him feel guilty. This was after years of his later admitted cheating. My guess is, had I questioned him about the nights out (and there were many) he would have blown a gasket and gas lighted me.
After all, for the next couple years after we had that conversation that is exactly what he did. The screaming at me, starting fights etc.
But, as the writer said, maybe that is the difference between a one time cheat, and a serial cheater. The pain of infidelity for the betrayed is a life time sentence. Yes, we heal, go on with our lives; but it can raise its head again. In my case it raised its head due to how my ex has treated our son and his family. It is what caused me to start looking for answers again. Well that and this stupid lock down has given me too much time to think.
For reference point, my first marriage was 21 years, and by his own admission he cheated all the way through, never loved me and all the rest of the things exposed cheaters say. Oh when he wanted to come back, he said “oh I just said those things to make you hate me”. Awesome job, it worked.
My ex tried to come back to me three times that I remember after we were legally separated. I had given him once chance and he moved back in and treated me like cr ap. I ended it and told him he doesn’t get any more chances. I kept my word. I knew he only wanted to destabilize me for his own use. Our divorce took a year. The last time was a little over a month before he went to Las Vegas and married the cheating partner. I wondered if she ever knew he did that.
I have now been married to my husband for almost 24 years. He went through a similar breakup, with is wife. Though I don’t think she actually cheated, she did dump him after he tried for years to save their marriage. He is so much different than my first husband. I guess my picker worked better at age 41, than it did at 18.
For those in the heat of the battle I would say “if you are walking through hell, keep walking” If you do, one way, or the other there are many many good days ahead, marred only by an occasional pain of memory.
I am so grateful you shared this. One of the signs of a cheating partner is that they get highly defensive (a diversionary tactic). A non-cheating partner is going to respond a lot differently, and a lot more openly, ready to show you everything and anything to prove their innocence.
Great words of wisdom. It sounds like you are in a much better space now. Thank you again.
i came across this article and all i can say is thank you. I have been married for 20yrs and blessed with two teenagers , a boy and a girl. My marriage has been ok but with hiccups here n there. 5months ago,i received a pdf document from a client and unfortunately my phone couldnt open the document so i had to transfer to my wife’s phone and open from there , upon opening the file folder{on her phone} i pumped on other pdf files which were illicit {pornographic} and couldnt believe my eyes. to confirm they were not a spam i opened their details and confirmed they were sent thro imo app by her male friend and not only that , they were also records of video calls. this had been happening for around 8months according to the records on the phone. I loved and respected my wife n family so much and this was the last thing i could hve expected from her. to make the matter even worse according to the records she was doing the video calls and photo shoots from our house when i was asleep in the morning {she leaves to work earlier than me} , how dare she? . I was so hurt that i forgot to log off her phone {form imo app} so when she took it in the morning she realized i hve seen everything and of course she deleted everything but fortunately i had forwarded everything to my phone just in case.I didnt confront or ask her the whole of that day but in the evening due to her guilt she faced me and wanted to know what i was looking in her phone and explained everything, Then i asked about the affair . She was quick to downplay it and blame the guy for sending her the illicit material without her consent blah blah blah…..for around 30minutes without me interfering . according to her explanations she didnt know i had a record of her sending the guy suggestive photos so when i asked her she jumped and said she had sent none, but when i told her i hve proof and lying will make everything bad she backtracked and admitted sending few and she was sorry…… MY boy{14} was sitting for his final papers and to me i couldnt allow anything that could distract him in anyway so i downplayed the whole issue at the time { deeply knowing i was hurting} . Before i conclude and forward the big question, allow me to touch on two other misdeeds that were refreshed by this issue; 20 yrs ago when in courtship before i married her, i happened to pass at her working place to see her off to class{she used to work as she studied- she is a nurse} and as i walked her to the bus i realized there was another guy who has come to see her off too, this got me seriously because we were almost into wedding, i didnt confront her but waited in the evening and asked her of which she was sorry and said it will never happen again. Fast forward to 10yrs in marriage ; one morning after a week long of “lows” in the house, my wife received a phone call which made her super excited and talked for 30 minutes laughing herself out and to say the least the call sounded like a boyfriend girlfriend talk although she tried to edit some words , ..after the call she left to work without even a goodbye and this got me thinking, i called her back before she left the gate and happily requested her to pick something for me from the shop and she agreed leaving her bag to my reach…took the last number from her phone and on when trying to add it to my phone i was surprised , it belonged to a man, youth member of our church, famous for all the wrong reasons- couldnt believe my eyes. i didnt confront her coz i thot it not wise….OK now to this 2020, 4months down the line and the pain is taking tall on me. Am the kind who believe in building no matter what, i love my wife and children so much but of late am getting fed up with my wife to an extent seeing her gives me bad feelings. And to clarify everything ,i never stalk her ,unless something happens like now , am the type who respects someones freedom and privacy no wonder the video calls for a year in my house without my knowledge… I NEED A WORD OF ADVICE BEFORE I TAKE A WRONG STEP. thank you.
I apologize for not getting to this sooner. I hope you are okay as you go through this. Have you taken any steps yet? The past incidents don’t really matter in my opinion. It’s okay to have friends of the opposite sex and it’s okay to laugh with them on the phone (my girlfriend has done that with her male friends, but it doesn’t mean she wants them sexually). I would be hesitant to say the past is nothing to worry about if there was a pattern of events that seemed suspicious, but these one-offs were probably no big deal. Even if they were a big deal, it doesn’t matter now because you are dealing with a very big deal today.
There’s a big difference between the person that confesses everything and the person that hides everything even when the door is open and a partial truth is out. Person A will feel guilty and want to tell you everything because they will feel so bad for hurting you. They will be riddled with guilt and will want to tell you everything you want to know because they can’t stand holding on to the information any longer. They loved the cheating but they also hated themselves for doing it, so they will usually speak the truth.
Person B will withhold and only tell you what they can get away with just to hold back as much truth as possible. They have their reasons, but these people I would say don’t feel as riddled with guilt. They may not have cared if you ever found out.
If your wife is really upset because she feels so guilty for not telling you and she is willing to move mountains to make up for it, perhaps there’s a chance you can work things out. It will probably involve therapy, as you will need to open up with honest dialogue from that point on so you don’t end up in the same place again. If she wants to save the relationship and she is willing to do ANYTHING it takes, then, if you’re open to saving the relationship, perhaps you can work together to start a brand new relationship NOT based on lies and full of honest communication. But I do believe you will need professional assistance (therapy) to get there because if you are riddled with anger and hurt, that will need to be dealt with and if she is riddled with guilt, she will need help too. After therapy, you learn to communicate honestly and speak about things you didn’t speak about before.
A relationship that survives infidelity is a completely different relationship. You really start fresh as two people not focused on the past but focused on being the greatest partner, listening and supporting, knowing that the way you were is what took you down the road in the first place.
So yes, if she is begging and pleading with you to give her a chance AND she is full of guilt and wished she never did it and feels awful, try therapy and see where it goes.
OR, if she just feels bad or doesn’t seem that eager to patch things up with you, or blames you for her cheating, or anything else that doesn’t seem to show her in a light of complete regret or remorse, then having a trusting relationship going forward will be very difficult. I’m not saying it’s not possible, but usually the cheater who really regrets their behavior because of how much it hurt you and how much they don’t like themselves for who they become is going to be a lot more likely to never do it again as opposed to the one who doesn’t show any of that.
Your next step should include this perspective. It’s not that she should be kissing your feet and bowing down to you, but if she is truly sorry, guilt will be prevalent and so will remorse. And this, in my opinion, has to last at least 6 months. If she’s angry with you after a month or two because you haven’t gotten over it yet, well, she’s probably not as remorseful as you’d hoped.
I wish you much strength and courage through this. Thank you for sharing.
Amazing article, thank you for this. It’s what I needed to hear.
I actually cheated on my boyfriend of 7 years 2 months ago and regret it immensely. There is no justifying what I did, and for some reason, he still took me back. We took a month long break because I wanted him to be certain he still wanted me – and he did. My amazing boyfriend gave me another chance to build up our trust and relationship. I know I would NEVER do this again, never ever ever. I have been reading a lot of harsh comments online (Reddit was not very kind to me), and this is the one article where I genuinely felt like a human being and validated again. I am not victimizing myself or trying to seek sympathy, I’m simply saying I’ve convinced myself I’m worthless and undeserving of his love. Is this true?
I believe he deserves someone loyal, respectful, and someone who loves him. I truly believe I am all of those. I accept that I am NOT the person I was 2 months ago. I want to move mountains for him and prove to him that I am worthy of his love. I resonated with everything you said in the article – feeling submissive, pathetic, and undeserved of love. Everyone seems to think my boyfriend is pathetic for taking me back – is he? I really admire his ability to still be able to be intimate, look me in the eyes, and still tell me he loves me. He is so strong, but everyone thinks he’s weak. I see the opposite – I also see myself as the pathetic one. How could I do this to someone I love? Contrary to popular opinion, I DO love him. Many seem to think you wouldn’t do this to someone you loved and I once thought that. But I love him with everything I have.
My problem is is that I fear he will leave me because the pain becomes unbearable. He is able to look past it and act like nothing happened – but at what point will he crack? Will he continue to dangle this over my head? We’ve had discussions before where he’s expressed his fears with me and I 100% am patient and willing to validate and reassure him because that’s what he needs. I know everything is better with time, but it sucks, especially long distance to truly reconnect. It gets harder and my thoughts eat away at me when I’m alone and far from him. I convinced myself that he might leave me. If he chooses to do this, am I in the right for being upset or do I let him go? I caused this. Or is it unfair for him to leave if the pain becomes too much after promising to marry me?
I feel unworthy and like the worst kind of human out there every single day. I feel like I have committed the worst act and that it defines me. I no longer want to be viewed as the cheater anymore, I don’t want it to define me but I somehow allow it to and I have no idea how to recover from this or get past this. I can’t just flip a switch.
Am I even deserving of his love? Am I worthy? Am I a bad person? Everyone in the world seems to believe I am, and if everyone believes it it must mean something. They must be right because this is nothing I morally stand for. I am so against cheating, yet I did it. Does he have the right to just leave if it becomes too much for him? I would NEVER do this again, and I want him to believe that. I am so transparent with everything now, checking in, everything I need to do.
How can he forgive me if I can’t even forgive myself? How can I be worthy of his love again? Will I ever be able to forgive myself? I’m not convinced. I caused a great deal of pain to the love of my life and it is slowly eating at me, convincing me I don’t deserve anything anymore. I don’t want to victimize myself or garner sympathy, which is why I don’t want to talk to him about this. I’m afraid he’ll think I just want sympathy or want to paint myself this way, when in fact, this is just how I feel. and it hurts. Not for my own ego, it just hurts ME that I hurt HIM. I don’t care about my ego at this point, I care that I’ve hurt him so much. I love him and never want to lose him.
Thank you so much for sharing this. Yes, get it all out there and out of you, even if only through a comment on a blog article. Everything you feel needs to be expressed. You are already repressing so much while in the relationship, so it’s time to express it all.
Yes, feel the guilt, the shame, and everything else that comes along with what many people see as the ultimate betrayal. Let’s call it what it is!
It happened and there’s nothing you can do to take it back. There’s absolutely nothing you can do to change the past.
And now, you are a different person. The person you were leading up to that moment made one or more stupid decisions and let her heart or her fantasies or whatever get the best of her. She was out of control and what happened happened.
And yes, you are a different person now. That is acknowledgment #1. “I am not that person. I will never be that person again.”
Acknowledging this and believing it are VITAL to the next step. You have already said you are no longer that person, so you are already halfway there (not a tiny percentage of the way, you are half way!).
After you acknowledge that you are a different person, you have no choice but to realize that that “unworhty, cheating loser” that was once you isn’t that anymore. You have no choice but to realize that the person you were had qualities that you didn’t admire and that’s why today, right now, you have to step into the new you FULLY and embrace the new person you are through and through.
Of course, I know you are not unworthy. I know you’re not a loser. You were never those things. But you made a grievous error. You F’d up. And doing so changed you for the better. It made you someone so completely different than who you are today that that old you can’t possibly exist anymore. You killed off that version. She had to go! That old you did things that YOU are never going to do.
She is in the past. That is not you.
It’s time to be the new you with your man. He needs the new you. He wants the new you. Love thrives with the new you.
Regarding your fears about him cracking one day? Don’t wait until that day. You HAVE to talk about this. You have to ask him questions like, “Why did you take me back? I committed the worst relationship crime there is. Why would you do that? How can you love me after what I did?”
Find out his reasons. Maybe you’ll learn something so profound that it will bring you to a new level of what it’s like to love someone in a way that he can. Or maybe you will finally pull out some repressed anger he’s been holding on to, giving him an opportunity to call you all the names in the book, just to get it out of his system.
No matter his response, it’s vital you let him know that you are open about talking about this because you don’t want to hide anything else from him ever again.
Healing involves self-forgiveness of course. Self-forgiveness is impossible without acknowledging that you are no longer that person that makes those kinds of decisions anymore. In fact, saying, “I know without a doubt I am no longer that person that makes those kinds of decisions anymore” is practically enough for automatic self-forgiveness. When you know who are aren’t, you know who you are, and you need to be damn proud of who you are today because he’s going to miss out on the greatest love of his life: One who is so loyal, so committed and so caring and compassionate that he’s going to want you for the rest of your life.
Step out of the old you that you still think is in there (it’s not) and step into a more proud version of you that would probably never have appeared had you not “killed her off” so to speak. Don’t let that old version of you run your life anymore.
You have to have some serious discussions with your boyfriend now. Don’t wait. Don’t hope and pray it will simply go away. Keep it a subject that is not something you’re afraid to talk about, but something you know needs to be talked about until it’s time to move on with no baggage at all.
That time will come. You’ll feel bad a lot, but that’s okay. That’s the self-punishment that takes place to remind you of who you never want to be again. But you have to get it out of your system before a year is up. Usually, 6 months is what I recommend for self-bludgeoning ;), but in your case, since you are already authentically regretful, and he seems to want to move forward too, perhaps it will take a lot less time.
At minimum, give yourself some good days. You can still have the bad ones, but know that you deserve the good ones too. That old you? When she shows up, fine, give her a bad day. The new you? Celebrate her. You are worthy. You are amazing. And you are going to get through this. It’s not meant to be easy, it’s meant to be a life-changing.
Your life has changed, so start to enjoy it dammit. 😉
I appreciate you. Thank you again for sharing this.
i am rethinking all these on and on, what i read in the article and the comments, what i feel, what happened to me, and although at first i was impressed by the fact that you have so clear criteria based on which you encourage people to further try or to give up (like sincere remorse and the promise not to do it again) now and then in my mind i think that life is not so black & white.
i regret the suffering i put my partner through, but in the same time i so well know my own suffering. i want to promise that i would never do this again (and i would never do this again, the cheating, be it virtual or in my mind- but what i cannot promise is that i will always try. i don#t know if i will. if he starts drinking again, if he starts neglect me again, why would i wanna stay forever and ever? how can you have a time period, like you say, when you promise and reinforce your love and accept the fury of the other, when probably you have your own scars made by the one who now is furious on you and excepts you to promise anything?
however this is very hard for me too, and there’s no one to promise me that our relationship will never be a desert again, no one to promise me that i will be loved and valued forever, and the remorse regarding the drinking and the neglecting is some sort of a footnote in our fights.
my story may be complicated (or not) but what i’m trying to say is that is never easy and this period when the infidel has to stay remorseful and loving to a person that probably thinks is okay to wipe away their faults just because he/she didn’t cheat is unfair.
and i read you judging people for asking their parteners to move on, or ..whatever. what do we know about all these relationship? only what the victim of the indidelity tells us.
but the victim of the relatipnship may be another one, or both, or ..whatever.
this is so hard
I know. Relationships can sometimes be the most difficult challenge because of all the factors you just described.
Try not to think about “to cheat or not to cheat”, try to think about if you really want the relationship. Period. If you don’t want the relationship, then make choices that align with that. If you do want the relationship, then take cheating off the table.
If you can choose to commit to one path or another, you make life a lot easier if you separate “having a relationship with no cheating” and “having no relationship so you can be intimate with others”. Including factors of both of those in either choice is what makes life complicated.
Since you’ve lived with an alcoholic, I highly recommend you seek out a CoDependent’s Anonymous group so you can understand what the loved ones of alcoholics go through and how they think. You may find many similarities. You can still love an alcoholic, but being in a relationship with some of them, especially those that haven’t stopped making you feel bad about yourself, can be very challenging.
I appreciate you! Thank you again for sharing all of this.
re-reading my comment gave me the feeling that i may look superficial in how i pass from one idea to another, but of course that i oversimplified my life and feelings.
i, of course, developed a real fear or writing because of the things my partner read, i have this fear that i am missunderstood, that i may think otherwise after a certain time and the very fact that i once thought different will come to haunt me
so i only want to add that, although maybe it seemed like we had no contact or relationship at all during this year, we actually had a very complicated relationship, sharing the custody of our daughter, with moments when we tried to be kind with each other not to affect our daughter, with him having moments when he sent me messages of hate and even a moment when he theaten to kill himself
because i trusted him and i knew he is a good and in some ways a very respoinsbile person, i never tried to limit his access to our daugther, although it was horrible for me to think, when they were on vacation, that he may drink.
what i am trying to say is that it was a very difficult year and i don’t consider suspect, like he seems to consider, the fact that i needed this time to understand how i feel about him and that i really want us to work out (and, of course, if it wouldn’t have been for his quiting drinking and resolving his communication problem, we would probably not be here anyway..)
Not to worry. You don’t have to explain anything. Our stories are always more than we can describe. There is so much that happens in life and we should all feel safe to express as much or as little as we want or we can. I completely understand. 🙂
and the last comment, i promise 🙂
i remember from the comments to this article the guy who didn’t want to quit his job because it was his dream job and you said that he should quit his job for the sake of the family.
i still work with the guy i had a crush on, different departments.
my (ex-)partner tells me he has no intention to pressure me into changing my job, but it kills him that i work there. this is not my dream job and i tried to find another, but i am a regular woman with no particular studies and not many options. i earn a salary here that helped me during the times my partner had no job and also during this year when i was alone, and he was struggling with the payment of the lease after and he moved away and it’s hard for me to give it up before finding another job. to hear you saying that i should do that for the sake of our relationship that is unsure and to find myself unable to pay my bills and to raise my daughter …. this is so idealistic. i mean there may be people who can easily find a new job if the case, but i am not one of these people. maybe the guy in that comment wasn’t one of those people either.
life is complicated and there is no way we can all fit in some criteria and be bad or having bad intentions if we don’t meet them..
every story is so different, and relationships are so much more complicated than articles.
i read the article and the comments, I partly agree with many of the ideas, but i don’t seem to fit in some place.
i was in a relationship of 7 years, with a child. My partner used to drink a lot, go out a lot, be distant and always let me initiate the sexual or tender acts. a year before our break-up, i starting having a crush on a colleague, started writing poems i was very impressed by. i always liked reading and always thought i will write, but except for my thougths every day in a diary, never wrote anything. however i think the poems where actually about my wishes and passion inside me than about my co-worker. Meanwhile my partner was still going out and still drinking heavily (but an overall good and attentive father). in my defense, because i read in the comments about the fact than when someone has the urge to cheat, he should share this with their partner. i shared this many times, telling him i am unhappy, i need to feel that he desires me and that i started to have interests in other men. he manily responded to that with things like: i will leave and you cand think another fool, yep sure like someone could possibly want you etc.
one night he came home drunk and we started to fight and he hit me, i decided to end the relationship. we were apart for about an year, during which he stopped drinking and started writing poems and letters to me, which he never did in the 7 years we were together (he didn’t even read my sms…). in this year, i realized soon that the crush on the coworker was a fantasy and it fadded away. at some point i started talking to some guy on facebook and slept with him, an experience that was in itsself dull but after this the guy stopped taliking to me and that made me feel very rejected and all, and i wrote things about how i feel in my diary. soon i got over it, and with time i started to think about what i what in my life, about my feelings for my ex-partner that in this year i tried to run away from
three months ago i got a letter from him and in the light of my feelings and the fact that he changed a lot, considering the fact that he still said he loved me and wanted to be together, we decided to give in another try. in this time, i found out he had been reading my emails, my diaries, my poems, i tried to explain that that was in the past, that some feelings i had because i was lonely and that i a very sorry i hurt him, but he keeps bringing back the things he read about other men.
i see he changed and i feel i had changed too, and if our feelings are mutual, i really want this to work. but after 3 days of good communication and pace, he starts remmebering the past and saying that i don’t actually love him, that am i with him because i am lonely and how does he know that in two years from now i will not betray him again.
i have moments when i am so furious because i was so miserable during our relationship and he was always away and distant, and how on earth did i end up the bad guy?
i always only wanted him to be home with me and our child, and after our break-up i was constantly thinking of him and feeling hurt and suffering because he suffers, what at that point i just wasn’t able to see a change for us, and i also wasn’t capable of realizing my feelings for him, because of the pain and fury.
however except for the wish to share this, i think i wanted to address the fact that probably many of the people who cheat, in whatever way, were hurt in their relationships and they may feel a lot of fury too. and this period of accepting the blame is kinda rough, as they may not be the only one to be blammed.
Thank you for sharing this. Life with an active alcoholic can be extremely difficult. The hope they will change never gets fulfilled. The emotional abuse that usually goes along with it also makes it worse since you are trying to be loving and kind and they make you feel guilty and awful.
Yes, there are many circumstances that can exist. What you shared here is one. I am grateful you shared your story here.
please excuse my typos and my modest english
Thank you for the article. I have been searching and reading a lot online since I discovered my spouse of 17 years had the intention to cheat on me for the second time. Your article gave me insight and clarity and I thank you for that.
My husband of 17 years first had the intention 6 years ago while I was pregnant with our 3rd child. Emails were found of his intentions to fool around with a coworker but before they could meet up I confronted him. No counselling was done but time allowed me to trust him again and move forward from it. Maybe not fully trust him but enough to stay and make the marriage work. 6 years has passed and I am pregnant with our 5th child and I recently found text messages and phone calls to a girl he met at a nightclub when he went away on a conference trip. I confronted him and he took all the blame. He apologized and said it was an passive opportunity that came up, he was drinking, he had lapse in judgment etc. He promised they never got physical but there was flirting and he did invite her out the next day. The real kicker is he said if the opportunity to get physical presented he would have slept with her and not tell me. But he was trying to be honest with me. He mentions a lot that he doesn’t actively seek to cheat on me but he also doesn’t have the self control to say no if the opportunity arises. He did say that the next day after meeting this girl (she’s probably 10 years younger than him) he did invite her out for a meal and shopping. Also to hang out again at the club but he didn’t go that night and she couldn’t make it to shopping. So it was a one nighy thing of flirting and text measages. At this point, the betrayal is so deep given its the second time. The pain and hurt I feel is so overwhelming that its become so hard for me to be strong for myself and the kids. He’s asking for forgiveness, he’s agreed to counselling and also to letting me decide whether to stay or not. But why do i feel like I will break this family if I decide to leave him. Why is it I feel I am only suffering while he had this great weekend and now his only consequence is that he needs to carve out time for counselling. I see remorse on his face when we talk but he’s a very realistic guy and he’s asked me to let go of my pain and hurt so we can focus on rebuilding our marriage ans trust. He’s saying a lot of things that you mentioned in your article, especially the part of moving past the feelings so that when we rebuild we’re rebuilding on not a toxic place but a place of healing and forgiveness. But in my mind I keep thinking of this being the second time around and why he didn’t learn from it last time. Did he not feel remorseful enough to control his desire to experience something as hurtful as sleeping with another person? Was I not worth it to just step away from tempting situations?
My partner exchanged emails with a co worker and flirted. I consider that cheating if he had to hid it from me…. it’s cheating… right? After 11 years together and I was pregnant with our third child. Been two years and it still hurts like it was just yesterday. I can’t seem to forgive him and it keeps being brought up.. I trusted him and never thought he would do such a thing… but it happened and I feel like I can’t forgive him… I try but I can’t seem to trust him… and sometimes feel as if I would feel better without him around… but we have kids together and they adore as I once did. I catch myself being mean at time. But I still feel very angry at him for what he did. My kids would be heartbroken if we separated. He’s a great provider and father. I just get to giving him my all again or ever for that matter…
Thank you for sharing this Mags. So sorry you have to deal with this. I want to quote you so that you know exactly what to expect in the future:
“He apologized and said it was an passive opportunity”
This opportunity will absolutely present itself over and over again. It happens to all of us. There are ALWAYS opportunities. Those who stay faithful don’t take the opportunity, they realize it’s the wrong path so they don’t go down it.
“he was drinking, he had lapse in judgment”
Has he stopped drinking? If not, then he will again, in the future, have another lapse of judgment. So far, he said he takes opportunities when they are available and he has bad judgment when he’s drinking.
“The real kicker is he said if the opportunity to get physical presented he would have slept with her and not tell me.”
Do you need anything more than this? It’s kind of him to be honest, but honest about what happened doesn’t stop what happens.
“He mentions a lot that he doesn’t actively seek to cheat on me but he also doesn’t have the self control to say no if the opportunity arises.”
This is basically the nail in the coffin. This is him setting you up to say, “You see? I told you that if the opportunity presented itself, I wouldn’t be able to control myself. This isn’t my fault, I told you this would happen and you chose to stay with me. You can’t blame me for this.”
I am being a bit bold in my reply to you Mags because I want you to be acutely aware of the setup that is happening here. He is telling point blank that this is who he is and by you accepting who he is it actually gives him a bit more leeway to be this person – then make the excuse that you new who he was so don’t blame him.
One last thing that is probably the most important thing you said:
“…he’s a very realistic guy and he’s asked me to let go of my pain and hurt so we can focus on rebuilding our marriage ans trust.”
This is manipulation and control. This is him telling you to let go of the idea that there is fault here and for you to get over his harmful behavior. He’s basically pointing the finger at you for not getting past the pain he’s caused you and the betrayal he’s done.
One who cheats and is truly remorseful is going to stay remorseful and take their punishment because they know they did wrong. One who cheats and wants to get away with it so they can do whatever they want will tell you that you are too sensitive and because you can’t let go, YOU are the one to blame for keeping the relationship improving.
Your last question, “Was I not worth it to just step away from tempting situations?” is worded completely wrong. It assumes that your husband’s behavior is based on how worthy you are. Scratch that from your mind completely. Your husband’s behavior is completely based on how loyal and honest he is toward you and has nothing to do with you being worthy or not.
Worthiness and lovableness are all about how much you value and love yourself. When you do value and love yourself, you don’t allow toxic people to control you or make you think you are anything less than who and what you are. When you DO allow them to make you think you are less than amazing, that’s when they have you right where they want you.
If you spend any more of your days thinking you aren’t worthy enough for his love and loyalty, you are wasting precious time that should be going into conveying to him that you will not stand for his behavior anymore and demand that he spends the rest of your marriage convincing you that he’s not going to have a “lapse of judgment” or fall for some “opportunity” just because it’s in front of him.
The person who breaks up the family is the person who betrays it. You are not responsible for his behavior, he is. And the fact that he points at you and says you need to let it go further reinforces just how not guilty or remorseful he feels.
He may do some great acting, making it appear how remorseful he is, but don’t confuse that with “I’m sorry I got caught”
I know I’m being tough, but please know that I do so out of love and respect for you. Do not dare take the blame for his choices. He made them, and he should feel bad enough to do ANYTHING it takes to continually show you that he is working on himself. As soon as he goes in the direction: “You need to let this go”, then he really hasn’t learned a thing.
Make sure you read the following:
https://theoverwhelmedbrain.com/exploring-infidelity-can-the-relationship-survive-the-affair/
https://theoverwhelmedbrain.com/healing-the-relationship-before-and-after-the-affair/
My thoughts are further explained there. You are amazing Mags. Don’t let him or anyone make you think otherwise. A realistic person will realize just how much they’ve hurt you and just how much pain you’ll be in for quite some time. A realistic person will do everything possible to win you back, not play the victim themselves.
Where was the remorse before he was caught? It wasn’t there… so what is the remorse really about?
I’m not saying your marriage isn’t repairable. I’m just saying you need to stop the self-blame and stop worrying that you are going to break up the family when that has already happened without your involvement. Now you need to focus on doing the best thing for you. First step, stand up for yourself. You will let go of your pain one day, but it will be on your terms. Do not let him or anyone else invalidate or make light of the pain you’re in.
You have every right to feel betrayed, hurt and angry for months and longer if you want. It has to be on your terms. If he’s hurrying you, then that is a huge red flag… sorry. 🙁
I appreciate you. Thank you again for sharing this. I know you’ll get more value from the other articles I mentioned above.
Thank you so much for this…
You are welcome Dan.
this article is exactly how i felt for a year now .my husband of 18 yrs have cheated on me and not sure if he was cheating for years and not caught .his excuse was always work and i always trusted he was working until last August when i saw text messages from a woman i dont know and very disturbing texts of love words and emogis anyhow i confronted him and he had no choice but admit to his ugly infidelity but he was unremorseful and started blaming me .i asked for a divorce i was hurt i felt unwanted and unworthy unloved somuch pain i cant even express.He said he ended the affair and he doesnt want the divorce he also doesnt want to leave so my situation is different i feel trapped i also feel he is lying he seems nervous and unrested and still uses the same excuses that he is working .he is never home till late at night and on top of all this asks me for things like did u buy this and that am in total shock he has no emotional feelings for me and doesnt share anything with me .iam very frustrated and my gut feelings tell me he is still with the other woman who is 20 yrs younger than him .The mistake i made was i contacted the woman and she was in shock she didnt want to speak with me at first but she finally opened up and told me he lied to her and said i was unstable and crazy that he was unhappy with me and that i refused the separation . i was very mad and for a year we been fighting and he kept saying she is lying anyhow i kept calling the lady and she called the police and told them i was harrasing her wooow me the wife is the evil person now so they told me i cant call her again .Can u imagine the pain,sorrow and hopelessness i felt i also found out recently he has another phone he doesnt bring home and when i asked him to see it he said no u need to trust me . i dont trust him and i need to find a way to get out of this marriage and let go
Thank you Paul. You helped.
You are very welcome.
Thank you, Paul. In a nutshell – the past ten years we have dealt with severe illnesses with our teenage children – one still leaving at home with a debilitating chronic illness. Two years ago we separated but continued counseling – within a few months my husband was cheating but still continued counseling and working on getting home. My son and husband have an extremely broken relationship that causes my son’s illness to become worse. Anyway – I found out about the cheating – my husband moved back in – we were (I thought) working towards rebuilding – I was devastated but felt as you have talked in your articles … what do I want? Heal and move forward – I did my best to take responsibility for my roll in our marital problems, etc. well I found out after 5 months at home he started seeing her again – no physical relationship but doing things together – biking, hiking – things we do together. This was apparently around a dozen times over four months. He now says he is completely over her – is ready to fully commit to our marriage and our family – he has no feelings for her anymore – it ran its course, so to speak. I have been with him since I was 19 – I’m 50 now. He seems sincere – I want a happy future with him. How can I believe and trust his feelings for her are over??
The trust has to build by him being completely transparent with everything he does. He has to be ready and willing to show you that his actions are true and in integrity. That means he voluntarily shows up in every way that portrays a trusting husband. He also has to be ready to address your fears and never show you resistance when you want to know where he is / was, who he was talking to, etc.
You build trust for someone when they repeatedly show up as trustworthy. Time and time again, it has to happen that way. But if there are gaps in that trust, there will never be trust. What I mean is that you can only trust when the person has proven that they are honorable repeatedly until you are satisfied that you’ve seen enough to know it’s true.
You may be tempted to spy on him, follow him, check his call logs. Professionally, I can’t tell you to do that. Personally, if I were in your shoes, I’d want to know. Not because I want to catch him, but because I want you to be wrong and feel more assurance that everything he says is true and you can feel good knowing that what’s happening when he’s not around is all in integrity with you and the relationship.
Again, not suggesting anything, but you either live with suspicions never able to reach full happiness and trust, or you prove to yourself that he is absolutely trustworthy. Hopefully, you don’t have to prove it to yourself, but he is doing everything he can to prove it to you.
I wish you the best through this. Thank you so much for sharing.
Hi Paul,
I’ve been listening to your podcasts for a while now. This article struck me, and i guess I’d like to ask you a question? I’m a bisexual woman in a relationship with a woman. We have dated on and off for 3.5 years, with this last stretch being the longest, consecutively (about 10 months). But overall, it’s been 3.5 years. Being two women, there can be some polarity issues, as I tend to gravitate towards the more feminine energy (in my most authentic essence). But every time we start up again, it starts out with her being more masculine and me more feminine—-then switches. OK, that’s problem numero uno. Secondly… I’ve noticed that “we” are codependent, so in the past couple of months I’ve told her we need to practice new behaviors. The thing is… I’ve caught her in multiple “little” lies. We keep agreeing to have an open and honest dialogue, but she, just tonight, admitted (after me pulling teeth), that she did indeed lie about something for fear that I’d get upset. I’ve also had this gut feeling about a friend of hers our WHOLE relationship and last month found some texts that were a complete betrayal to me. I love her dearly. But in my mind I keep going back to the topic of “patterns”. I don’t want to change HER. But I want our patterns to change and to be frank—my “gut” is giving me this uneasy sick feeling about these tiny deceptions. I am now constantly wondering if she’s sparing my feelings or being frank. My anxiety is through the roof and i just flat out feel unsafe. So, that was a little all over the place… but nevertheless, Seeking guidance…
-Veronica from LA
Thanks for sharing this Veronica. I’ve come to learn that relationships always tend to work better when you can settle into the aspect of energy (masculine or feminine) that makes you the most comfortable. I think what you’re saying is that you like to be more feminine and want to be with someone that has more masculine energy, correct? If that’s the case, then her switch to feminine must certainly make things difficult for you. Does that mean you also switch to a more masculine role to even things out? Do you do behavior that is more assertive and more “in control” (not that those are necessarily masculine-only)? Do you find that you have to be more assertive and “pull teeth” in order to get the truth? If so, then you are probably defaulting into that type of masculine energy just to get your needs met.
I see this in emotionally abusive relationships where the victim of the emotional abuse gets tired of not getting their needs met so they have to do emotionally abusive behavior too, just to manipulate the other person into fulfilling their needs. It becomes a very unhealthy, codependent situation much like what you may be going through. You try to make up for their dysfunction by being dysfunctional. This can complete the cycle of dysfunction and create a hard-to-escape loop.
So, if your partner gravitates toward feminine as her more comfortable energy, and you do as well, it sounds like you’d be better friends than lovers. This is only my opinion of course, I’m not saying that it can’t work, but relationships just seem to work better when the energy aspects are opposite (to have a more fulfilling coupling, in a manner of speaking).
As for the lies, this is a very big problem. Yes, she probably is afraid of your reaction which does give you an opportunity to look inward and ask yourself if you’re giving her that safe zone to express herself no matter how hard the truth is. If you get upset with her truths, she will lie. This is a truth you can rely on! Even if you don’t get upset, it doesn’t matter: She should be honest even at the cost of the relationship. In other words, both partners in a relationship need to be honest even if they know their partner will leave them if they share a truth with them. That is a truly authentic relationship that can outlast the best of them. What happens is that the honesty, even though it can be painful and risky, becomes the glue that strengthens the bonds, whereas the lies weaken the bonds. So when you get through a hard truth together, you become stronger together.
If you don’t make it through a hard truth, however, and you split up, then your relationship wasn’t meant to last. You definitely want someone who is willing to risk the relationship itself with truth instead of one who is so afraid of the consequences that they are willing to be betraying toward you and lie.
The only thing you can do is to look at how you communicate as well. Do you tell white lies? Do you not say things out of fear of her reaction? If you share difficult truths, she may feel safe enough to share them with you. If you are already doing that, then it will be very unlikely that she’ll ever change.
As for the betrayal, that has to be a truth you need to make a decision on. The way I make decisions like this is to ask myself, “If today represents the way it will be from this point on, forever, would I stay in this relationship?” You only have today by which to judge, so only judge on what you see here and now. Don’t speculate and hope she changes.
OR, if you want to give it some time, give yourself a stop date. Mark on the calendar: “If I don’t see these particular changes by this month and this day, I’m going to _____ (breakup, move out, leave for a week)” Then when that month and day comes, absolutely follow through no matter what.
You are right about patterns and those don’t change without some serious introspection. If that’s been her pattern, it will BE her pattern from this point on. Unless she has some serious breakthrough or therapy or realization of what she’s doing to her life and her relationships. But don’t fall for the “I promise to change for you” stuff… that never lasts.
Thank you again, Veronica. I wish you the best through this.
What if the spouse will not and does not want to discontinue contact / relationship with the AP?
He tells me they are in love and he promised to always be there for her – she texts him all day every day – with one problem or another that he must help her through, and (according to him) expresses great jealousy and panic attacks when he doesn’t respond right away via text or phone call. She left her husband for him – I am sure on the belief he would leave our marriage for her. I would not be surprised if he did in fact give her reason to believe they would be together and now feels some guilt. He constantly tells me that he loves me and his home and life are with me – he will not leave me – he also repeatedly states that his heart can love two people and believes that should be ok. (However, the time, energy and focus [read: manipulation] to maintain two serious relationships is taking a toll on his health and that is of great concern to me.) Without going into detail, we have had a really solid relationship on all fronts; intellectually, emotionally, physically and – like most others on this post – had no idea. He admitted to me he has always been happy in our life together, wasn’t looking and didn’t feel like we had any marital problems, but something “just happened, they clicked and lightning struck” (yes – he actually used those words) when they met and they couldn’t keep away from each other. On several occasions I have strongly encouraged him (seriously) to consider the possibility that he should leave and be with her, I don’t depend on him financially or to “fix” things for me – but I suspect he may be hiding behind our relationship so that he can maintain face in our community and not deal with being financially and emotionally responsible for her and her children (we do not have children). I know that if the “Love Blinders” were off the romance the addictive behavior would have to face the realities and responsibilities of day-to-day life. No one can make decisions for anyone else – but is the concept of “loving two people” realistic in your experience/view?
He has clearly marked out his position in the relationship Brenda. You need to decide where you want to be. All in, or leave? For you!
Thanks Brenda, great question! There’s a difference between loving two people, and investing your heart and soul into two people.
In my experience, love has always worked best (when it works) between two people because there can be such a closeness and sharing that can’t be felt by anyone else. The other person becomes an extension of you. What happens to them happens to you too, because you are empathetic and really care about their welfare.
You share secrets and you know you can trust them 100% with anything going on in your life.
When you add a third person, it CAN work, but ONLY if BOTH partners are on board and all love and support each other. In your case, you do not sound on board at all. In fact, the way you describe this situation, YOU are the other woman because he will drop time and energy he has with you to support her.
This is unhealthy. Anyone can love anyone. But investing your heart and soul into someone, where the “love” for that other person includes behavior and taking time and energy (and money) away from those you are supposed to be in a “healthy” relationship with, is a recipe for disaster. This is still an affair. Their relationship isn’t over (as you said).
Speaking from a man’s point of view – the “MAN” is supposed to make the decision and deal with the consequences. He’s not making a decision, he’s letting you deal with the consequences. In a way, he’s getting his cake and eating it too. The “MAN” that wants to save his marriage will do ANYTHING IT TAKES to sever contact with what is toxic to the marriage. He will move mountains to show his dedication and commitment.
Now, if it’s true that he developed a relationship with this other person, she left her husband, and now he feels guilty about it, (excuse my intensity): WHY IS HE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR HER DECISION?
Sorry, but it’s absolutely ridiculous that he is taking responsibility for her decision to cheat and leave her relationship. He did the same thing and is now facing the consequences. That’s on him. But what she did on her side is on HER.
I know the excuse: “She wouldn’t have done it had I not said we wouldn’t be together”.
SO WHAT! I moved to California several years ago because my wife said she wanted to be married forever. The marriage didn’t work out, but am I now supposed to blame my wife for MY personal decision to leave my life behind and start anew in California? I lost my condo and all my friends, but it was still MY decision to do so regardless of how convinced I was.
Your husband may feel bad for his belief that he put her in that position, but if he chooses to take responsibility for her decision, then he needs to go all in and be with her because I have news for him: He made a commitment to you way before that he would be dedicated to the marriage and, I’m assuming, to be with YOU and ONLY YOU.
If he truly feels bad about the position he’s put someone else in, then his priority to her over the original commitment he made to you shows you where his focus lies.
You are not in a marriage, you are the other woman. He needs to start taking responsibility for the person he promised to love and cherish way before this affair. Choosing not to end the relationship with the other woman is far less damaging than denying his promises to you the day you married.
He can’t have it both ways. If he is racked with guilt because of what he did, that’s good! That’s what’s supposed to happen when someone regrets what they did and now have to feel a little punished for hurting those he’s supposed to love in his life.
What perhaps hasn’t been considered through all this is that this other woman is probably still in love with him. His behavior will never allow her to let go and heal. If he keeps this up, she’s going to hold on and never move on, making her think that he’ll change his mind. This keeps her from healing and finding a healthy relationship that might actually go somewhere.
He is doing SO much damage to everyone. I hope you are able to work this out. Thank you again. I wish you the best with this.
Thank you for the emphasis on recognizing denial. The betrayal I have been dealing with for over two years now has had me stuck in a place of denial and confusion. I discovered the affair by finally following my instincts and reading his journal, an isolating and often negative writing exercise that he does every morning like clock work for the past 18 years. It did devastate me as the writing was graphic and mean of a cruel nature toward me. It was so confusing as I knew something was wrong. He struggles with addictions and most likely a mood disorder issue has come to light but I had no idea that he was up to all that he was. Earlier in our relationship he was prone to wander with other women and reckless but when we eventually married I had thought we had overcome all that. He has done his best to apologize but communication between us, well, it sucks. He continues to write in the mornings and will not share what he writes. Any conversation I have started over the past year to help myself gain confidence again to trust leads to him becoming defensive, accusing me of not healing from my childhood issues, and then I am punished and neglected until he recovers. This whole pattern just puts me in a spin and my anger turns toward myself. I cannot seem to forgive myself for letting all this happen and for falling into some rough PTSD. I definitely had childhood issues triggered but still feel like we have not repaired the betrayal but then constantly ignore my “self” and say 2 years, surely it is repaired. I have been a calm and understanding person through my marriage and I can’t seem to get back to that at least somewhat. I just keep exhausting myself with trying to make things work and then give up for awhile to recover. I gather strength and am ready to leave the relationship but then I find myself back in my pattern of things were good before, this can work. I write all this as I gave up on counseling 3 months ago as I felt like it was making things worse. Now I can’t seem to trust any move other than one foot in front of the other. I feel like I am resigned to accept the relationship that I was happy with before the affair, but then suddenly was the reason for the affair, but now is what he wants back. Would love a little critical thought from you as I am obviously mulling around seeking help again but am resistant.
Thank you for sharing this. Let me ask you this question:
If you knew, without a doubt that he would never, ever change, would you stay in this relationship?
I ask that because I really want you to consider what you’re willing to invest in (or sacrifice). You are holding on to hope that someday things will change.
Look at the trend. You know the trend line that shows company progress and profit? It slowly rises or falls over time letting the investors know if they are using their money wisely and if they are making the right decisions.
You are an investor in this relationship. Look at your relationship trend line. Does it slowly rise, showing progress each and every day or month? Does love seep in little by little, where the relationship shows signs of improvement every day?
Or perhaps the trend line stays at that middle level, not rising, not falling. It’s just the same thing every day.
OR, is the trend line over time showing that downward fall where each new month is a bit worse than the last?
You must rely on your relationship trend to understand where it’s going. Anything else (hope, faith, wants, needs, wishes, etc) are all delayers of the inevitable to keep you feeling like you aren’t going to lose your investment.
Trends are truth. When tomorrow is never better than today, that’s how it will be FOREVER.
Sorry for the emphasis, but I’m hoping this reply breaks you out of the cycle you keep putting yourself in. When you have someone that makes you feel bad about yourself, you are in an emotionally abusive relationship. The emotional abuser however makes you believe it’s your fault and you are responsible for the problems. That’s what they’re great at doing.
So when you think about the question, “If you knew, without a doubt that he would never, ever change, would you stay in this relationship?” you have a choice and you MUST move on that choice. That choice is:
1. You stay knowing he won’t change, but aren’t allowed to complain because you know for a fact that this is the way it will be forever. Knowing this and staying in the relationship is your choice, so blame cannot be put on him.
2. You leave knowing he won’t change because you realize you don’t want that kind of relationship for yourself. This involves giving up hope or faith that he will somehow magically see the light and realize he is doing destructive behavior.
I realize that the emotional abuse has convinced you that you are at fault but if my crystal ball says that he will never change. Ever. Do you know what you need to do now?
I apologize if I’m a little harsh on you. I do this out of love and respect for you and your path. I want you to know that relationships like this are designed to keep good people feeling bad and responsible. You have an opportunity to do both of you a favor. You can give the relationship the gift of your empowered decision so that you are no longer feeding off of each other’s dysfunction.
Does that mean you have to leave? I won’t make that decision for you. But if you aren’t there for him to abuse, then you are helping him by giving him the opportunity to change his ways. That doesn’t mean he will, but it IS a gift and he can choose to accept that gift as an opportunity for healing or not.
One of you has to break this vicious pattern. It cannot continue to repeat. And he will not be the one to do it.
I wish you the best through this. Thank you again for sharing.
Married for 19 years in April and together for 25. Our relationship over the past few years has been full of fighting-especially during the past 2 where my daughter was sick. Took a toll on the entire family. During that time we were not intament with each other. Daughter healed but we were more like bad roommates. My wife said during a fight that she would find someone else. I chaulked it up to threats and made me not want to be intiment. Today I sit on a hotel patio after finding out she has been seen her high school sweetheart for 2 mos. found the phone records and tied to recent girl trips before leaving for work. I called the guy and then became outraged and confronted her about it in front of kids-terrible mistake I know. Packed a bag and got a room. Sent her a lot of texts with the phone records to fess up but response was “just a friend”. Friends don’t text 383 times all hours of day and night. I spoke to an attorney then retained the next day but nothing served. Timing bad for kids as had to cancel a spring break trip for them. Her mother asked me to tell the kids I was mistaken and go ok trip and deal after so they don’t get hurt. I advised can’t do that but won’t discuss events with them again. Trip cancelled and trying to figure out how to stop my soul from bleeding. Two days before I found out she was taking divorce and we fought about it. The next day I said not what I want but understand why she does. She just kept taking about how the divorce is good for both of us knowing she already betrayed and this was her way out. Now I don’t know what to do-my family knows-her family- and some friends. I’m on an no sleep painful roller coaster and don’t know what to do. The article helped but not sure if a few years of not so happy marriage and now cheating is worth saving. My kids are going to be greatly affected and think I still love her but not sure she has any regret as not owned up to it. Just devastated and confused.
Thank you for sharing this Scott. You are in a very challenging situation. I think it’s important for both of you to really consider if you want to start your relationship over again, at least after some time has calmed things down.
Do you know for sure she wants the relationship to end? Do you?
Regardless, you both need to grieve the end of the current relationship – the way it is and has been for the last couple years. What you had before is over. That’s a challenging reality to accept, but it’s also the first step into healing. Accepting that your relationship is over allows you to move on and heal. It doesn’t mean you can’t get together again, it just means before you get together with *anyone*, you need to heal from the emotional wounds you’ve developed over the years. There’s a lot of pain there. It will take some time apart to grieve the relationship’s end, but the grieving also brings you closure to clear your head on what you need to do next.
You may or may not want to reconcile, but you can’t do so as you are today. Too much hurt and too raw. Time apart when you have kids is also painful because you have to see each other to have time with the kids so it will be challenging in that respect too.
Two years without intimacy is not a relationship (unless it’s agreed upon and okay with both people). It usually means the relationship is over. Who withheld the intimacy? When it’s withheld, you can’t expect your partner to wait, especially years, for it to return. Not saying that’s an excuse to cheat but it sure increases the chances of infidelity.
The right thing to do is give each other space. It may help to be empathetic. Ask yourself, “If I were her, and I was married to me, how would I feel? What would I do?” It may be difficult to empathize like that, but it could be helpful.
Again, not giving her any excuses for her behavior, but at the same time, two years without intimacy is not a relationship. How long should either of you have gone without intimacy? Is there a time limit that’s acceptable where the other person should find someone else?
Cheating is not healthy behavior and shouldn’t happen, but it does. And because we know it does, we as partners have to do everything in our power to make sure we keep the relationship as healthy and connected as possible. Every day that goes by where intimacy and connection disintegrate, the chances that the greener grass on the other side will look more appealing.
I wish you the best through this. I know it’s a huge challenge. My own process when there’s a lot of anger toward someone else is to imagine that the world is going to end tomorrow… If you knew the world was going to end tomorrow, would you still have all this anger or would you move into a new space where you wanted to let go of the past and start anew?
Just thoughts to ponder. Thank you again for sharing.
Thank you for the article, Paul. I am a wife of 3 teenagers that has been loyally married to a man for over half of my life. Few years ago I came across my husband’s habit of visiting men’s spa. I was devastated and begged him not to continue. A year ago I found out about his repeated infidelity. He actively sought and pursue relationships with multiple women. The evidences, full naked pictures and intimate conversations with several ladies are truly shocking. He even does things beyond what he ever done to me this past 20 years. I was deeply crushed and attempted to have an open conversation with him that I am ready to accept the facts, and use the opportunity to improve upon myself to be a better spouse. I thought we both made positive changes, I strive to take better care of his needs and he put efforts to spend more time with our kids. However as recent as today, I found out that he is still doing so and even to a greater extent. I am extremely confused, hopeless, exhausted, sad… and would truly appreciate a good advise. Please…
Thank you so much for sharing this. There is no way to answer you with any amount of sugar coating. I can only say it bluntly and honestly – and know that I am coming from lots of love for you and want you to heal through this and come out on the other side a healthy, happy person:
He is never going to change. He may ask for forgiveness and he will promise you to never do it again, but this is a lie. He will betray you over and over again until you have a mental breakdown.
You are way too worthy to be with someone who treats you like this. You do not need any more signals that this is a bad situation. You’ve gotten all the evidence you need to prove that the way he has shown up will be the way he shows up time and time again.
“Love” is supporting your partner’s happiness, not ‘doing whatever you want regardless of your partner’s feelings’. He is only supporting HIS happiness and therefore cannot show up for you the way you want and deserve.
You need to love yourself free from this abusive relationship. Do not let him take advantage of you any longer. The best advice I can give you right now is to imagine yourself today, knowing what you know, knowing that he will never change. That is bad enough, but now imagine what will happen if you choose to stay with him. How will you feel in 1 year? In 5 years?
You can’t rely on hope or denial… this is going to involve some very scary yet powerful steps into honoring yourself so that you can break the pattern of continuing to put yourself in harm’s way by his behavior.
If you feel like you’ll never be loved like he loves you again, be grateful because this isn’t love – it’s abuse. There’s nothing you can do to change him. You must accept this or you will get duped time and time again. This isn’t about you or how you look or how you act or anything, it’s about what he wants regardless of who he has to hurt to get what he wants.
Get off the track because the train will not stop and you will be hurt. Letting go is the toughest part. My mom held on to a 40+ year abusive relationship and she couldn’t let go. But two months after he left, she realized how much time she wasted staying in a relationship that caused her anxiety and stress every single day of her life. She said, “I can’t believe I didn’t leave him! What the F*** was I thinking?”
It might take you a month or two to get past the initial hump of getting over this, but once you do, you’ll be confused as to why you didn’t let it go a long time ago.
Life is way too short to hold on to someone that only cares about himself. Whatever you think he’s giving to you, it’s not love.
You don’t have to listen to a word I say as you have hard choices to make and I’m not you, but you can start the healing faster if you make the choice you already know you need to make. It’s not easy, it’s very scary, and he will probably try to guilt you or scare you into staying, but honor yourself above all and you will get through this.
Thank you for this article.. and for all the posts to the readers.
Infidelity is truly the most destructive emotional roller coaster I have been through. I like you, never thought I would be OK with a cheater.. not because of the cheating per-se, but the lack of trust. Because of how I grew up -with lots of lies, deceiving and back-stabbing in my extended family, I have always been very black and white when it came to the relationships I chose – until I met my partner I guess. And that in itself is the hardest part for me, being in love with someone who challenges my MO that was formed as means of self-protection.
He has apologized, said it was selfish. Explained why, which doesn’t make sense to me rationally.. but one thing does, we were not in a good place to begin with. And I know my part in that- perhaps the only reason I have stayed is because I know my part in that. He has attempted therapy, and failed – he’s not a talker, took a CSAT as I began to worry the situation was an addiction as a result of attending group sessions. He has stopped going out, begrudgingly gave me access to his chats, phone etc. Provides phone bills when asked (not on his own as he is hopeful we will get to the point when I no longer ask). He checks-in, with slip-ups, possibly to keep some sort of control. We have our highs and lows. Lows are when my anxiety days meet his “I’m tired of this”, and I take it to the other extreme of saying he will never change and is not doing his part and I’m accepting his bad behavior. Because that is my deepest fear, allowing someone back in and being “that woman” who is hurt over and over again. That’s why I established my MO. What I fail to realize during these times is what he has done –
and though not perfectly, for a very private person.. he’s done alot.
After reading your article, I realized that perhaps I’m the one holding us back by not wanting to give up the control and by wanting to remain in my safe unhappy bubble. But it’s futile, because we are miserable and not progressing. I also was torn between accepting the slip ups (of when he doesn’t do things perfectly) or seeing them as something to be expected. It’s as if my black and white view of the world, right and wrong has gone on overdrive, and I’m afraid to let it go because I don’t want to be hurt. But I’m actually hurting both of us.
So I will try to step out of the bubble. If it’s meant to be, we can grow strong… and if not, then we are better off apart as where we are now is no-where. Thanks for listening.
Thank you for sharing this Daisy! I understand your struggle. I talked with a client today who had a difficult time letting go of an affair of 4 years ago. It was an emotional affair and the guy didn’t even know what that was. When he realized what it was later on, he apologized and felt empathetic for her for the first time. She saw a difference in him but was still mad about his lying so many years ago.
I told her that by holding on to her anger about his behavior, maybe she wants him to continue to feel bad about it at a deeper level. I asked her an important question… well several important questions:
How long is long enough? Meaning, how much time needs to pass before you are able to release him of his guilt and suffering?
What is your criteria for your anger to go away? In other words, what needs to happen for you to get past this? Are there criteria? Will he ever be able to meet your criteria or is it an impossible task that he is doomed to fail?
I’m not absolving him of his behavior. He was still wrong and he did betray her trust in him. But if he is not cheating now and will not cheat again, and she wants to keep the relationship (which she does), then she will need to release him a bit more every day or every week and start to trust him again. It can be a slow process but with a good relationship, it can rebuild sometimes to be more strong than ever.
It sounds like you are ready to have a happier relationship Daisy and I want an update when you get to a better place with all this!
Thank you again for sharing. I appreciate you!
I’ve listened to some of these storiesand still don’t know what to do. I found out that my husband had been having an online affair for several months, and playing a game a developing a friendship with her for at least a year before that. The final conversations I found were graphic sex talk. These conversations were taking place as I laid in bed scared and I’m pain waiting for my 3rd heart surgery. I also have epilepsy, so I’m obviously depressed right now, but he said the depression caused me to check out so that’s why he did it. There were several women, but only one got sexually graphic, but they had also built a friendship. Now all I feel is hate, rage, and anger. He did all of this during a time I didn’t even know if I was going to live. Now I don’t want to be here either. He took all trust, security, and set off tons of seizures from my epilepsy, so now he’s even cause more brain damage to a broken heart. Ideas?
Thank you so much for sharing this Carin. You just described the perfect storm. If you’ve seen the movie Perfect Storm, then you can probably relate to the ending! His behavior was adding insult (and betrayal) to injury.
Does he feel guilt or shame for doing this? Has he stopped?
What happens next will depend on what you want and if he is truly apologetic and doesn’t ever do this kind of behavior again. If he feels awful and commits to never doing this ever again, and you want to save the relationship, there is a chance it could work. He may need to endure a few months or more of your upset as you try to rebuild trust in him, and that is okay in my book, but if he is doing all the right things and showing you his phone and checking in with you and whatever else you require of him, then there is a chance to rebuild.
If however you can’t trust him going forward – or you don’t think there’s a chance to rebuild trust – then it may be time to move on. There are two main types of cheaters I’ve seen:
Ones who get caught and ones who come to an admission because they are wrestling with their conscience.
In my experience, the one who comes to an admission is more likely to never cheat again. The other one? Well, they lied up until they were caught so it could indicate they weren’t struggling at all with their conscience and had no plans to stop lying about their betrayal. That’s not always the case but it happens that way more often than not.
I think what it really comes down to for you is your health and state of mind. If you believe staying you will never be able to trust and you will constantly be triggered, then staying is a bad idea. If you believe leaving will release you from worry and anxiety if he’s ever going to do it again, then leaving may be a good idea.
However if you believe that he truly is sorry and is doing everything he can to prove to you that he will never do those things again, and you feel you can get through period of time while rebuilding trust again, then perhaps there’s a chance that your relationship could be stronger on the other end.
There are a lot of variables here. I would highly recommend prioritizing your health since that seems to be what’s most important. If you have health, you can have more after that.
Thank you again for sharing this. You may want to tune into these episodes and articles on this subject and other related ones to help you through this:
https://theoverwhelmedbrain.com/?s=cheating
Your take on pornography, please.
That is a deep topic and can have many facets. Some people view all of it as bad and damaging. Others view it as harmless when consenting adults watch it to spice up their love life.
I believe porn is damaging when it replaces intimacy with your partner. It overstimulates the brain and nervous system with too much exposure to something you’d normally have to wait for. The instant accessibility of porn probably decreases the buildup of gratification in your relationship. Maybe not for everyone, however. I’ve met men who have such a high sex drive that they just can’t get enough sexual pleasure and need it sometimes multiple times a day.
That puts their partners in a bind if they can’t keep up with that sex drive. Monogamy can be very difficult with a sex drive that high. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but I imagine anyone with an unusually high sex drive might be better off with someone else with a high sex drive as well. Though that still doesn’t guarantee monogamy.
In a relationship with issues, pornography could be an escape from those issues. If the issues are resolved porn may not be needed anymore. If porn is the issue itself, and the person who views it doesn’t want to stop, then it could be an addiction that should be treated as such.
Addictions are difficult to control, especially ones that are so easily obtained on the internet. So the person may want to talk to a counselor to dig into the root of the addiction and see if the person can change their go-to intimacy replacer to the person they’re with.
Porn can be a big problem in the sense that it has a way of offering the brain and body the imagery it needs to fire off chemical reactions and put the person watching it into a sort of altered state. It’s very difficult for some people to not want to be in that altered state, especially if their normal life isn’t so great.
Porn in relation to infidelity, where someone sees their partner watching porn as sort of a virtual cheating, can be very damaging to the relationship. If your partner watches porn and you don’t like it at all, it would probably be the same thing as if they did heroin and you didn’t like it. It may be against your boundaries and values. Them watching porn might mean to you that they are getting their needs met elsewhere, even if it’s just on a computer screen.
It’s a tricky subject and involves a lot of questions. Why do they watch it? Are they in a sexual mood? Do they need more sex? Do they want you to do something differently? Would they watch less porn if you had more sex?
I think it’s important that it’s talked about openly, as you might talk about any behavior you don’t like (if you don’t like it), that way it’s not a secret thing that the watcher keeps to him or herself. It can feel very lonely to be by yourself while your partner watches porn. It can feel like a withdrawal of love and attention and make the partner feel completely inferior. After all, how can they compare to so many other body types and behaviors? There is no comparison so it can be painful to some people.
If you watch porn, talk about it with your partner. Tell them the truth. The truth is something to work with and gives both of you a chance to meet your partner’s needs. If you do it behind closed doors and your partner feels left out because of it, that will make your partner less happy and even resentful to the point of leaving. They will feel like you are going outside of the relationship to get your needs met and that is never good.
If you watch porn on occasion and your relationship isn’t negatively affected by it, or is even enhanced by it, I’m not sure it’s a problem. There are arguments on all sides of this and I am certainly against some porn that is illegal, immoral, offensive, or demeaning to anyone because it not only takes advantage of people, it sends the wrong message on how to treat others.
Way too deep of a topic to expound on every aspect, but an important topic nonetheless, especially when the partner of a porn watcher is really affected by it.
Dear Paul,
Thank you SOOOOO much for your article. It really nailed all my feelings; so much so I would sit there and cry because this is what I needed. Someone who understands my pains, my angers, my frustrations. Alas, can you also take away the pain? Can you make it hurt less? I truly didn’t believe it would happen to me… and everyone has told me, if anyone were to cheat in your relationship, it would be you first. I have too much integrity to actually go through the act without consulting my partner first and it hurts so much that he didn’t feel the same for me.
I think what hurts the most is that I gave him an out. I told him, “my gut tells me to not trust you. It tells me you’re cheating on me.” And while lathering kisses on my face, he told me he wasn’t cheating. My gut never lies… I just am in massive denials.
I am like you. Once my trust is lost… I honestly do not know if I can get it back. Sometimes I wonder if I’m stupid enough to break my own person code for this man, a man who didn’t have the honesty and the respect to tell me he was cheating on me in the first place. And what really sucks is he did it a week before my birthday. For some reason, everything feels tainted. And god the pain hurts so much. I never knew I could cry for this long and that I had such a copious amount. Parts of me want to continue, parts of me want to end it. I know. It’ll forever be an internal struggle. But what I can’t fathom: we based our relationship off the truth. We made a pact to each other that when one of us wasn’t having fun, we’d let the other person know.
After a very messy angry and hurtful midnight romp, he asked if we can talk about it. Like an adult, I listened. He told me I am “too mean to him.” That it’s all my fault. Even with tears streaming down my face and my heart broken into a thousand pieces, I asked him, “A relationship takes two. I admit, I could be nicer to you. Is that all it takes? A nice girl to win you over? A few racy texts?” A part of me wants to understand, a part wants it to hurt so bad and for him to just share so I can heal — with our without him. A part of me wishes I could hurt him back as much but I know it’ll hurt me more. I actually told him: “I am so proud of myself. I am not attacking you right now.” He responded defensively with: “I didn’t know you cared so much.” And what hurts the most, is that the girl he described to me, isn’t the girl I am at all. And it hurts. It hurts sooo much. So I asked him, “you know what hurts? What hurts is that you only see the negative and you don’t see all the positive things we had together.” What really hurts the most is that you didn’t talk to me first and had to go behind my back and weren’t honest with me.” He told me: “you always say you will leave me. I don’t see why this is any different.” I respond with: “The difference is mine was just words, yours were actions. Actions you can never take back. Actions that I don’t know if I can honestly forgive you for.” I don’t know if I can trust him anymore. I went through his phone and the texts were there. I couldn’t read anything because my heart was so broken inside, I just knew it would kill me. Kill me in ways I couldn’t come back. The sad part is I still want to see if this works. I know he’s hurting but I told him: “I know you’re hurting. I am hurting too. I have to be selfish. Because this hurts. It hurts so much I wouldn’t wish this pain on my worst enemy. I have to be selfish because no one else will put me first in this relationship and I never want to hurt again.” The sad thing is I don’t think he’s ready to admit his wrong. I am trying to heal. I told him in order for us to heal, we need to have the ugly talk out in the open. He has to tell me every single word he said to her, verbally because my imagination is worse. I asked him how long he was talking to her, he said a couple of weeks. I asked him how it started, he goes we would talk about games, music, common stuff. I go did you know you were cheating? He remained quiet. He remains quiet a lot. And I think that’s what hurts the most. He’s not willing to share. I asked him, you’ve been on my side of the boat, you’ve been cheated on, how did it make you feel? He goes: bad. I go well if you went through that why the F did you think it would be okay for me to experience it? He goes I’ve always felt like I was in a one sided relationship with all my girls, I was so used to it. I told him, so now that you’re on the other side of the fence, what’s different? I hate myself. I hate how I still try to love and protect him. I hate how I had to tell him: who do I call? who do I contact? You were my person. You hurt me. And what do I do? I turn to you. I have to console myself. Do you know how weird it is experiencing this pain and trying to console yourself? I go I care so much about your freaking imagine I don’t know who to call? Who else to ask for help? You know why? Because once you’re labeled a cheater, it taints your whole life. What hurt the most was that I had to fake being happy around his friends because his friends view him as a brother; one who they would kill for. Who am I to tarnish his shining armour? Selfishly I can’t do it, because I would feel his pain and it would hurt me more than it would hurt him. I wish I didn’t feel other’s pain. It hurts so much. Another irony is the people I turned to, are all cheaters themselves. I never went to someone who is a survivor. It hurts so much. Why did he want to destroy what we had? It hurts so much. Sometimes, I’ll be working and then the next, I’m literally on the floor, wailing. You know, do not ask someone how they are feeling unless you are ready for it? And I hate it. I hate how everyone is: how is “enter partner’s name”? How are you doing? I always respond with: that is such a loaded question. Do not ask. I am not strong. I don’t know how to handle this pain. It hurts so much. I can’t express it into words. All I know is that he wants to try to make this relationship work. He hurts when I say I can’t sleep with him even non-sexually. But every time I lie in that bed, I am flooded with thoughts of him, lying to me, hiding things from me. I am now so paranoid when he tells me he is at his brothers. They have told me that his brother often alibis his buddies when they cheat. What the hell did I get myself into? And when he looks at his phone, I can’t help but think, is he texting her? Is he sharing parts of himself with her? Why can’t he be honest with me? The sad part is, I think if he told me upfront he was cheating, it would hurt less. Because at least he was honest and had the gumption to admit it. Why hide it? I feel numb. Like I am outside my body. I look like crap and feel like crap. I will be working and zone out for hours. Is this what hitting rock bottom feels like? It’s painful. It’s empty. I am so thankful I reached out to my support. But it isn’t the support I need? What is wrong with me? I still need him and it hurts so much. I am breaking my own cardinal rule. I never go back to a cheater. NEVER. Well bite me, I am and I have. I can’t sleep with him yet. It hurts to much. At night, it’s worse. I can’t sleep. I literally have to work myself to exhaustion so I go to bed. What hurts is that I know what he needs to do to make it better. But I don’t want to give him the answers. I want him to find it out. I have to tell him we have to start dating again. You have to woo me. Because I don’t feel loved. You say you love me but actions speak louder than words. I get it, I read fictional books where if you do something wrong, there is a gesture or something to show remorse. I don’t see it from him. And I think this is why I haven’t re-committed. I am waiting for him to say sorry and mean it. I had to tell him, you’ve never said sorry. He goes I have. I go: no you haven’t. You’ve said sorry for hurting me but not for cheating on me. And I know he regrets hurting me. I feel his pain.. Stupid of me eh? I see his eyes water. I think he’s afraid if he touches me, I’ll reject him. I think he’s afraid of what to say to see if it hurts me. I told him, no more strikes. That’s it you’re out if you do it again. And my trust is not going to be won over night. It is going to take a long long long time to get back. I feel like I lost a piece of me with him. I’ve even told him, you know, if I were to cheat on you, I’d call you first. Because I know you”d talk me out of it. I’m sorry you don’t feel the same for me. And it hurts. Because I want to be that person for you. Like you are to me. He goes, I just want to hear you say you love me more. I go, to me actions speak louder than words. My birthday is in a few days. He wants me to spend it with his. It hurts cuz I can’t taint their imagine of him. I will go and pretend like nothing is wrong. Should I be more upset that he doesn’t even want to do anything special for my birthday? That he isn’t considerate enough to do things for me anymore? Am I wasting my time? I ask him these questions and he has no answers but no. We’ll get better. Am I deluding myself? Am I in the wrong? I get it. I could be more affectionate, but I always have told him, I am scared to be openly affectionate. Because I feel things to greatly, I have to protect myself in someways. He calls me weepy. I will watch a show and openly cry with the actors because I feel their pain, their joys, their sorrows. I have told him all this and still he forgets. And I think that hurts sooo much. He says I don’t listen. I go: I listen. I talk a lot but I actually do a lot of listening and body language reading. Am I being too nice to him? Should I tear into him and let him have it? My fear is, I always hold my tongue when mad. Because I know I say things I can never take back. He always wants to talk about it right there and right now. I can’t. I need time to cool off and process it and then come back more levelheaded. I don’t know what to do? I think a part of me, wants to leave, a part wants to stay, a part hurts like hell, a part is so angry, a part of me understands, a part of me admits my fault and role in this, and a part of me is like your gut is never wrong. So what is my gut telling me? My gut is telling me he is still lying and holding something back. People say at least he never slept with her, how do I actually know that? What hurts more is that he shared parts of himself with her that should have been mine–mine! I don’t know what to do. All I know is I need to find myself again. By that I put off a lot of the things I loved because of him. I realized I need to become independent again and be responsible for my own actions with or without him. My fear is that when I decide to become independent, too independent, what if I don’t need him anymore? I’ve never been in this situation before. I don’t know what to do, how to act, how to feel, what to say… all I know is that in the next hour, I’m going to go to bed and wake up crying. It hurts so much. How do I forgive him? Forgive myself? How do I let it go? How do I move on? How do I stop the tears? The pain? My eyes have literally not stopped for the last 4 days. And I suspect, for the next month. You know, I’ve even asked him, how long did it take you to forgive the girl who cheated on you in your past relationships. He goes a few weeks. I go, did they cheat again? He goes a few of them did. I go then how do I know you won’t. He goes: because I won’t. I think what I want are words here: to show that he still cares. That I mean something to him. I want the words that will make me cry and make me fall back in love. Words that describes his feelings for me. But I don’t get them. Am I wishfully thinking? Is this the end? I asked him to take the pain away, he goes I wish i could too. I don’t know if I can trust him again. I asked him if she knew he had a girlfriend. He goes yes. I even asked him, what does she give you that I don’t. He goes, she’s nice. It’s like low blows. Is this what he thinks of me? Who the hell did he fall in love with? Because I swear it isn’t me. It hurts. Hurts so bad. Will I recover?
Wow, thank you so much for venting this pain. The quick answer is Yes, Absolutely, you will recover. Right now you are in the thick of it – you are grieving a giant loss and betrayal. The loss is what you believed you had and the betrayal is obvious.
My concern about your message is that he does not apologize for the cheating. If that’s true, then he’s not sorry he cheated! This means that if he could go back and do it all over again, he’d do it (regardless of what he says). Not apologizing for doing the one thing that betrayed says it all in my opinion.
Just the words you shared with me that he said is very suspect. A person who is not sorry and stumbling every minute of the day to make sure they are trying to gain your trust back is a person who doesn’t seem very sincere in wanting to be faithful again.
I am sorry if this is not what you want to hear. Someone who makes a mistake and cheats, then feels bad, then admits it, will sink to the bottom and feel so remorseful they will do everything in their power to save the relationship. But a person who cheats, gets caught, apologizes that you feel the way you do but doesn’t apologize for the cheating is not a person I would put any faith in.
I’m usually not this direct – but from what you told me, he doesn’t believe his behavior is wrong and seems to attribute it to being your fault.
My bottom line in this is that someone who doesn’t like how his partner treats him needs to be up front and tell them that he doesn’t like their behavior. If you both try and perhaps seek counseling, but there is still no improvement after that, then the dissatisfied partner should leave the relationship, not cheat.
A truly remorseful person will trip over him or herself to show you just how bad they feel for doing what they did. A person who feels justified in doing what they did – won’t.
I only have a tidbit of what you are going through and made a lot of assumptions about your husband and the situation so please read into this as only my opinion. But if my words resonate with you, then take them to heart and do what you feel is the right thing to do for you.
Sometimes that involves hard choices that you don’t want to make. If you stay in denial and/or mistrust, you stay in misery. If you see that he is seriously working on making your relationship stronger and more bonding and is doing whatever he can to show you he is serious about you two, that might be a different story.
There should be no nonchalance on the part of one who realizes the mistake they made… unless they don’t believe it was a mistake.
You will heal. Keep listening to my show (every episode is a path to healing in some aspect), seek therapy, seek support groups, do whatever you can to connect with people that will help you get through this. Stay or go doesn’t matter right now – what matters is that all your focus goes into rebuilding yourself so that you create a solid emotional foundation. Once you rebuild your self-worth and self-esteem, you are going to be able to make decisions that you know are right instead of wondering what to do.
My heart goes out to you. Thank you again for sharing all of this.
This is exactly what I need right now, the advice explores all the avenues. Thankyou for writing this up!
So much thanks for this
Thank you so much for your words Florence.
I’ve been with my partner for a year and a half, I have 2 kids from a previous relationship so we have taken things slow for a year, then in the last 6 months we’ve started planning for the future. We decided together that we are both committed to each other, we wanted to buy a house etc..
Anyway I have found out that he has been cyber cheating on me for the past month or 2.
His ex girlfriend contacted me and told me he had been asking her and other women for nudes and sending them etc.
I didn’t believe it at first and stood up for him. I thought he was very loyal even though I have paranoia about infidelity.
So I showed him her message and he denied it. Then after a talk he said he had sent her a picture by accident. Then as I gathered more and more evidence he finally admitted to him asking her for 1 picture, then after gathering yet more evidence he admitted to asking twice.
Now I’m left feeling like I don’t believe anything he is saying. Although I do know he is truly remorseful and regrets what he has done.
I just don’t feel like I can live with his actions and the lying.
I am extremely self conscious, I often hate my body, I am an anxious person. I feel like after what he has done it will just amplify those feeling inside me, and I don’t want to live like that.
What do I do?
Thanks for sharing this. Sorry you are dealing with it! You may want to re-read this article, at least certain parts of it, because I share with you exactly what to look for in the betraying person during the aftermath.
Also, whether you hate your body or not has nothing to do with whether he cheats or cyber cheats or whatever. There are people with perfect model bodies that get cheated on, so try not to consider your body having anything to do with his behavior. His behavior is breaking the boundaries of the relationship. It’s a betrayal and is all about his integrity as a man and as your partner.
When the cheater gets caught, there is almost always more to the story, unfortunately. You’ll read that in this article as well. If he felt guilty and regretted his decision, he would have stopped his behavior and confessed to you. But it sounds like he would have been perfectly fine continuing this behavior if you never found out about it. That’s a problem because if he has the ability to do that behind your back and has no problem lying about it, what else has he lied about?
Of course, I don’t know him or your situation. He really could feel remorse because when he was caught he realized that the behavior was a betrayal and suddenly snapped out of it. That could happen. But at this point, it’s up to him to rebuild the trust. This article shares with you what to look for with that as well.
Without trust, you can’t feel safe. Without safety, you can’t feel love and connection. It’s all tied together. Hopefully, he is being completely transparent now and showing you whatever you want to see. “Of course you can see who I just texted, here’s my phone.” “Of course, if you want my Facebook login, here you go. I want to hide nothing from you from now on.”
That may sound extreme, but the rebuilding of trust sometimes requires extreme measures. And if you’re ever going to trust him 100% again, maybe that extremeness needs to happen.
I hope my words help. I won’t tell you what you should do, but if I were making a large decision to buy a house together, I think I’d hold off a year. But that’s me. I wish you much strength and healing through this.
So I have a question, I made a terrible mistake and I cheated my partner decided to stay and work it out BUT continually talks to other females, tries to show me their pictures, and constantly even before sex will talk about going be a man hoe. If we are trying to work on things and fix things I know I did wrong no doubt but is this okay ? I know I deserve pain I understand that but if we are suppose to working on things isn’t this making things worse or should I just take it ?
It could be his way of trying to deal with the pain of being cheated on. Like some people use laughter as a defense mechanism. I think it’s a bit immature and hurtful, but if you cheated on him within a year or so, he may be using this behavior as a coping mechanism.
On the other hand, if he chose to stay and work things out, he has to show effort toward healing the relationship too. There’s no reason you can’t ask, “When you say things like that and show me all these pictures, are you trying to push me away?” It sounds like you need to talk about it just to find out why he does it. If he says something like, “Come on, I’m only kidding” You can reply, “Well, you never kidded like this before. It only happened after I cheated. So it feels like you’re pushing me away. Is that what you want?”
You should have an open conversation about it because you need to know why he’s doing this. He may get very angry and say, “Well you hurt me! I can’t believe you did that! I trusted you! Why did you do that to us?” Or something similar. And if that comes out, that may be a very good thing. He may have this boiling inside him and he doesn’t know what to do with all that emotional energy. If he explodes like that, allow it. Be open to it. Let him vent and share his upset. Don’t defend, just listen. Even say, “Tell me everything you’re feeling” if you want to help him let it out. If that’s in him, you don’t want it to stay in there.
At that same time, it could be too soon for that. If you cheated a month ago, it’s going to take a while. You may feel some of that pain. The cheater does have to go through that period of suffering for their partner’s justified upset. But your question is valid because it raises the question on the extent of what the partner who got cheated on should do. And can they go too far.
That’s why it’s important to figure out why he’s doing it. If he says he’s still angry, then at least he’s expressing it instead of holding it in. In this article infidelity, I talk about the period of time it takes for the betrayer to suffer is typically 6 months to a year. It doesn’t always have to go that long, and there’s not always suffering involved, but when it happens, there is a minimum amount of time that has to pass before the remorseful betrayer gets to stop reliving their mistake.
I wish you much strength and healing through this.
I just read these comments and find myself in a predicament I never expected. I live with my boyfriend and have for the last year. I took a trip two months ago and was suspicious that he may have been unfaithful in some way while I was gone. He denied it until he had a health scare and thought he could have an STD. He finally told me the truth and has apologized so many times, cried over it and begged me to forgive him. This is not normal behavior for him nor have I ever felt suspicious before. He doesn’t hide his phone, is never away unexpectedly, etc…and has never given me a second of pause until this trip away. Before leaving our relationship seemed very sound and we have had zero real issues. He said he really doesn’t know why he did it other than the opportunity presented itself and he made a huge mistake. He has answered every question I have about it and it’s not someone he has much contact with or anything-just a friend who hit him up when I was away. I am hurt and angry-esp since I can’t see any holes in our relationship so that would have caused it. We have great sex life, talk openly and often, etc…I just don’t know what to do. I love him but also feel devastated.
Thanks for sharing this. Sorry you are going through it! I received a comment from someone a couple of years back regarding this very article who said she cheated on her long-term boyfriend but could not justify why she did it. You can read that comment and my reply to her here: https://theoverwhelmedbrain.com/infidelity/#comment-18407
My reply may or may not help you understand his perspective if he’s anything like the woman who wrote but I thought I’d share in case it helped.
With that said, I don’t think this is the time for forgiveness. This is the time for him to feel the guilt and a lot of it for quite a while. He needs to experience his betrayal full on and know that his behavior is relationship-ending stuff and is not acceptable by any means. You have every right to be upset and stay upset at him for as long as you need to (usually 6 to 12 months as I mentioned in the article).
All of us have dozens of opportunities all the time so the opportunity thing is a poor excuse. At the same time, I know that sexual urge can be really strong with some people which is why willpower and empathy need to be TOP PRIORITY so that when opportunity comes his way again, which it will, he will leave the area instead of giving in to the moment. Otherwise, selfishness and lust take over.
When I was married, an opportunity came my way. The perfect storm of events. The urge was there but critical thinking and forward-thinking won, and I left the scene immediately. The woman I was with was confused because she had no idea why I was leaving in such a hurry. But I didn’t want to hurt my wife and I didn’t want to do something that I knew would be temporary and painful after I was done. Also, my wife trusted me, and that was enough for me to be faithful because I didn’t want to violate that trust. I also needed to live with myself.
The good news in your situation is that it sounds like he regrets it badly and you’ve had a very good relationship thus far, aside from this incident. You may never get a good reason you can feel closure with. You may never hear him tell you a good “why” he did it. He may have just given in to a sexual urge which is definitely no excuse and not much closure. But a lesson like this CAN create a positive change in the relationship where everything becomes very transparent, honest and open.
Do you ever talk about sex and the type of things that attract you sexually? If discussions like that aren’t normal, if you choose to work through this, sex talk may be part of how you make sure to get things out in the open (instead of it being taboo). What you resist talking about persists inside. You may not have any deeper sexual thoughts but he might and it might be beneficial for them to come to the surface. Not saying you or he has to share every dark fantasy ever, just ones that are persistent and might build up and cause bad behavior.
I know that you are experiencing a lot right now. I hope my article has been helpful so that you can make the next best decision. If you choose to stay, I think it’s important that he’s in the dog house for quite a while. If he begs to be forgiven, or even gets upset that you haven’t moved on yet, that is not a good sign. That is someone that wants to get away with something and wants you to let him off the hook.
If he’s 99% a great catch and he feels shame, guilt, and regret and says he will never make such a stupid mistake again, then it might be worth hanging around while he walks with his tail between his legs in a constant state of the kid who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
There may be no nice feelings for a while, but this is a time for you to watch his behavior and see that he is doing everything he can to continually prove to you that he is 100% invested in THIS relationship and will never, give in to temptation again. It’s a difficult journey and you will be triggered many times. And when you are, be upset and express that upset to him. Say whatever you need to say. Be angry, yell, etc. And he needs to take it. He needs to allow you to be upset. And you may need to be upset for several months (like I said, can take quite a while).
Depending on his behavior for the next several months, you’ll know if this relationship is going to be the most trusting one ever (because he’s even more open and wants you to know that he is wide open to everything you want to know, even if it’s where he is every hour of the day) or if it’s one that you don’t need because he decides that he doesn’t deserve your upset. That’s when you’ll have to make an important decision.
I know, you may be in the midst of a decision now, but I hope some of my words have been helpful.
Here’s an episode that may also help:
https://theoverwhelmedbrain.com/building-emotional-deficit-cant-find-or-keep-friends-in-love-but-still-cheated/
I wish you much strength and healing through this.
Well, several months later I am finally fully aware of the details but still just as confused as before. Turns out the person he had oral sex with was a friend of ours. This woman has had feelings for him for years and he has always kept her at a distance but remained good friends as he said she is great person but not someone he wants a relationship with. She is (I thought) my friend too-we met through him and really hit it off. The week I was on this trip my boyfriends high school friend lost her battle with cancer so he was super upset about it-on top of that I found out he had been online sports gambling (something he knows I hate) and lost a significant amount of money from his “play with” account. He won’t admit any of this but I think he was feeling sorry for himself and deep inside was upset with me about being on the trip as I met up with a male friend while I was there-totally platonic- and I told him all about seeing him, etc. my boyfriend struggles with trust issues due to damage from previous poor relationship so I am always very transparent with him. Our friend came over one night just after all this happened slightly intoxicated and came on to him hard (her words-we have talked about it). She said it got out of hand and they immediately both realized it was a huge mistake and apologized to each other after approx 4 min of oral sex. They both say it was a very regrettable decision and vowed to never speak of it again as it should never have happened. In a way I understand why they would have decided not to tell me if it was a moment of poor boundaries and stupidity but it doesn’t make the recovery process any easier. I truly do believe they both regret it and I also think my boyfriend needs some help dealing with his feelings and emotions as he clearly picked a very unhealthy way to deal with what he was feeling. He risked losing me to make himself feel better for a quick moment and that has been very hard to get past. I have known him for many years prior to dating him and he is not a cheater. He has always been very loyal even when in shitty sexless relationships so I am so hurt and baffled as to how he did what he did to me-someone he says he is very happy with. I have made the choice to try to move ahead with him as I love him very much but am unsure about how to get him to talk to someone about his inner feelings and coping mechanisms. I don’t want this to happen again and he is adamant that it won’t and he knows how to prevent being in that situation ever again.
Very rarely do people that need help get it until they’re ready. It’s like telling a teenager that the person they are dating is bad news. Almost every teenager will retort with something like, “You don’t know him/her like I do! I love them and want to be with them forever,” or something like that. In other words, no matter what you tell them, they do not want to see what you see and will not look. The bottom line is they have to reach a conclusion on their own. They have to get to the point where it’s clear to them. Many adults are like this when it comes to therapy. If you walk up to most adults and say something like, “You should get therapy. You aren’t able to cope well. You need to see a professional,” they would probably be offended. Or, if they did take your advice, they are likely going to do it only because you told them to but not because they want to. And there’s a big difference in results for people who want to go to therapy and those who feel forced to go.
My point is he has to want to go. He has to recognize the problems, acknowledge they are an interference in his life, then decide he needs outside help for those problems. Since you have chosen to stay and work things out, it’s quite possible he believes that the problems he has aren’t bad enough to push you away, so why bother getting help? That’s how it can go sometimes unfortunately. The loss isn’t great enough to seek help so you keep going along the same path because it’s still working out for you.
The loss has to be big enough for him to come to that decision on his own. I can’t tell you what a loss for him would be like. Maybe temporary separation? Maybe withhold sex or sleep in separate rooms for a while? Maybe none of the above. All I know is when you know someone has issues and they refuse to get help, if there is no accountability or loss in not getting help, they may never bother to do so.
As for your feelings about the infidelity, almost always it’s not about the infidel doing something against their partner, it’s more often a selfish act. What I mean is you said, “what he did to me”… I imagine if he truly loves you, he didn’t do anything to you, he just did something for himself. Though, he did betray you so we could look at it like that. But since you mentioned a gambling issue, that could show signs of addictive personality or something like it (I’m not diagnosing, just an opinion) which tells me he probably needs to work on impulse control more than anything. And that could be tied into his coping mechanisms for sure.
If he is hiding things from you like the gambling, if you let that slide, then again, more opportunities for accountability where there is none. In other words, he gambles, hides it, you find out, you get mad perhaps, but you don’t leave him, so he feels like he’s in the clear so it’s okay. It’s almost positive reinforcement for bad behavior. It’s never a true punishment for him. Some people need to feel the pain/loss so greatly that they realize if they don’t clean up their act, they’ll lose everything. That’s when big changes come about.
So, I don’t think you can get him to talk to someone unless he knows there’s going to be repercussions if he doesn’t. What those repercussions are is up to you. It’s not easy because it feels so risky to the relationship, but these are the tough steps you sometimes have to tough in order to get the best out of the relationship. Otherwise, if nothing changes, happiness is usually delayed indefinitely.
We’ve been married 32 years.. I had an affair with a co worker over the last two years.. it came out and of course my wife, sons, immediate family and friends are devastated. Your take on the cheater is correct.. I am extremely remorseful for this in so many ways.. it’s pathetic and cruel. My wife, although broken and shattered had made tiny hints that she wants to work on this.. I am in therapy, she is as well and we will be going to couples counseling… I want to try and salvage this if we can… I have told her I will take as long as she needs to do this.. I pray every day we can do this.. I know I have to take this for a while.. I am ready…
Thank you for sharing this. Staying together is possible but there will be a LOT of rough days ahead. Your wife will need to reconcile her thoughts of being lied to and betrayed for the last two years and will need to experience an entirely different, vulnerable, transparent, and wholly honest you going forward. If you are truly remorseful and are willing to do whatever it takes to change who you’ve been so that she can get to know and trust the new you, your marriage may survive. Regardless of what happens, I hope you take the important lessons with you anywhere you end up. And I hope you are able to heal and grow through this as well.
Hi Paul. I’m 31 years old. My husband and I have been married for 2 out of 8 years being together. After a year of being married, I looked at his bank account transactions and noticed a charge from a flower shop around Valentine’s Day. (I didn’t get any flowers from this particular shop.) After lying numerous times about the transaction, he finally admitted to having an affair with a married woman for the past four years. He also admitted to developing feelings for her, and that’s why it was hard to leave her alone. I felt so betrayed and foolish for being blinded by his infidelity for so long. We separated for a few weeks, and within those weeks, he seemed remorseful and hurt by how his affair affected me. He promised to cut out all lines of communication with her. I believed him and allowed him to come back home. I made it clear to him that if he ever talked to her or step out on our marriage again, I will leave him. Trying to regain full trust has been my biggest battle, but I was able to forgive him. Now, fast forward 9 months later to today, he befriended her again on his social media account. I confronted him about it and he apologized and said he doesn’t know why he did it. He said he wasn’t seeing her again and he’d only laughed at a post she made. I told him it didn’t matter and I wanted him to move out. He tried to plead his case but for the life of me, I couldn’t understand why he would do such a stupid thing. I know I said I would leave him but a part of me still wants our marriage to work. Only now I don’t think I could ever trust him again. I’m so confused. 😢
A man (or anyone) who is truly remorseful and wants his marriage to work after having an affair will do everything under the sun to make it work. He will cut ties, he will quit his job (if he works with the person), he will go to great lengths to save the most important thing in the world to him which should be his relationship with the person he promised to love and be faithful to for the rest of his life. After being caught, he has an opportunity to reflect on all his mistakes and make changes that show he is now a changed man and will never make the same mistakes again.
The fact that he reached out to her again tells me one thing: He was waiting for things to settle, biding his time to make sure he knew you were in a trusting space again. When the smoke finally cleared, he went back to his homeostasis. “A tiger’s stripes never change” so they say.
I only say that because he reached out to her when it was clear that it was the wrong thing to do. But he did it anyway. “I don’t know why I did it” is BS, sorry – don’t buy it. Faithfulness is more than just about sex, it’s about keeping promises and being trustworthy. The fact that he reached out again is a huge red flag that shows his homeostasis (his normal state) is someone who does this kind of behavior. And the rest of the time is highly questionable. Is he just faking it in front of you?
Most of my comment here is my personal opinion. I’m taking huge leaps in assumption so don’t take my words as gospel. I just know, as a man, if I ever made a mistake like that in my life, the last thing I’d ever do is even put my toe near the water again, especially the very same water I swam in last time! I’d be completely open and transparent about everything knowing that my marriage was the most important thing I never wanted to mess up.
Some people aren’t like that. Some people want a marriage and other relationships too. I don’t know if your husband is like that or not, but when it comes to cheating, you need to ask yourself what the relationship-ending violations are so that if something like this or another violation happens again, there will be no turning back, no matter how sad he is he got caught (again).
I wish you much strength and healing through this. The only way I can see this continuing to work is to have the most honest, hardest open communication with him about his desires, and for him to be 100% transparent about everything – to the point where you have access to his phone and social media. But I can’t say you should do any of that, I can only share with you what I might do.
Paul,
I don’t know where to start, but found out 2 months ago my wife of 33 years had been having an emotional affair for 9 years with daily and multiple calls and texts per day. As you stated, devastation doesn’t begin to cover the emotions I went through. After researching everything I could about affairs, your article covered everything I was going through and more and felt you were talking directly to me about the past, present and future and what I needed to do get myself right.
You talked about instincts as I approached my wife approximately 8 years ago regarding feelings for this man as she denied everything. About 4 years ago he did not know I was home and was staring in window then texted as her phone went off simultaneously and went into denial as I did not approach her again and thought about hiring private detective, but felt this would do more harm than good.
Only saving grace was that we separated for these 2 months and the more I spoke with neighbors, the more I learned about this guy as he was a serial cheater, would troll for other women in neighborhood, and had women enter his house from back of home while having these affairs when wife was out of town. Once my wife learned the truth about this pervert, she felt ashamed and played by this guy as the common denominator from people who knew this guy was that he was the neighborhood creep.
Part of my healing process was going to an attorney and having letter sent stating claims for for alienation of affection, criminal conversation, and intentional infliction of emotional
distress while asking for significant damages. On morning when I found out about affair, sent text to his wife stating that he had called early morning when I was running late for work in which my wife lied about phone call. He texted me that this was nothing more than brother sister relationship and how dare he upset his family. Needless to say, when attorney letter arrived he had to confess affair to his wife, lost respect and trust of grown daughters, unable to speak to my wife, threat of lawsuit hanging over his head and now guilt the rest of his life for destroying lives of two families.
Thank you as the best healing process was reading your article as my wife and I have started the process of reconciliation and we have a long road ahead of us. I was too trusting as anybody that knows my wife would say that she would be to last person to have an affair as I thought we had a greater marriage and love than anybody I knew. If this could happen to me, I encourage all individuals in relationships to read your article. A must read for everybody!
Thank you again for your great gift.
Dave
Thanks so much for sharing this Dave. What a story and what a great path you’ve both decided to walk and forge ahead instead of staying focused on the past. Yes, the past will come up during the healing, but the focus is on the future and making the marriage stronger than it has ever been.
I remember the end of one of my relationships. I would say that the girl I was with was having an emotional affair of sorts with our neighbor. I liked the guy and thought nothing of it. And I’m pretty sure they were just friends at the time. But after we broke up, she was married to him a few months later. That was a shock to me, but it also was a valuable lesson at the same time. Shocking because now I had to question the last few months of our relationship. She got married fast so… does that mean she was cheating previously? The lesson came later when I started my own healing journey. I kept losing relationships and decided to be objective about the data. More specifically, I decided to examine what qualities other men had that I didn’t, specifically men that my exes ended up with.
In the case of the girl who got married after we broke up, I realized he had no problem speaking his mind and being a bit rough around the edges. That was nothing like me! In fact, I was the opposite. I kept to myself never showing anger. He was able to show anger easily. I hated confrontation. He was able to confront easily. He would say things like, “I’ll just go talk to him right now and straighten this out,” where I would say something like, “I’ll wait and see what happens. Maybe it’s a misunderstanding.”
Our personalities were completely different. I was missing a lot of masculine components that she found appealing in him. So I starting working on those qualities in myself. It took many years and more failed relationships to actually figure out what I was missing, but it turned out that the fears I carried around and my old people pleasing ways were working against me. So as I healed those things, my relationships got stronger.
Now I feel confident and sure of myself and have no problem with confrontation. This is what I was missing, along with some other stuff that I had to heal in me. And I didn’t change to impress anyone, I changed because I simply didn’t feel comfortable in my own skin. Turns out the people that our partners find attractive can be very helpful in our own growth. Sometimes. It doesn’t always work that way, but I tell you that story because perhaps there was something your wife was getting from him that she’d like to see more of from you(?). Don’t know. Maybe you’re already on a good path and don’t need me to interrupt it. 😉
But I thought I’d share in case that applied to you (or anyone else that reads this) because it was eye-opening for me.
Thank you for all your words. I am grateful for your candidness and your kind words about me.
I wish you both much strength and healing through this.